PARKER was Offered ZHANG + DUBOIS Before WILDER

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's just shifting the blame. Joyce would happily fight Wilder, and AJ has consistently fought top ten opposition for years. The common denominator for big fights not happening is Wilder.

    I just find it rather disingenuous that you'll rip on Parker losing two controversial decisions and one KO, but ignore the fact that Wilder would likely be worse off if he also fought the big names.

    Personally, I think both Joyce and AJ can take Wilder out. Whyte would obviously lose at this stage of his career.
     
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  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As long as they don't use Moses as a referee it should be good.
     
  3. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder has yet to prove he is anything but a bum killer.
     
  4. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the duhaupas stoppage was bs to keep his streak alive.
     
  5. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    not to mention wilders always been a mediocre bum killer
     
  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This ^^

    The number of posters who act like Wilder is some ATG in the making is nuts. Dude's resume is filled with weak touches and barely any top 10 (At the time) HW's.

    It's pathetic for the number of fights he's had. And not to forget, he DECLINED a fight w/ Wlad because, even as a title holder, was said to be not ready yet. Geez...
     
  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    We're all about to find out just what Wilder brings at 38 years old

    And just what Parker brings at 31
     
  8. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You make some decent points but there was nothing controversial about the AJ decision.

    Whyte was a close fight but was one that Parker lost more than he won.

    Joyce he came in out of shape and got beat up by a guy Zhang gave a hiding to.
     
  9. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We only find out if Wilder shows up. His ongoing tantrums about the fight order could easily be used as an excuse to duck.
     
  10. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The ref in the AJ fight was atrocious. Refused to let Parker fight on the inside which obviously favoured AJ.

    As for Whyte he clearly headbutt Parker, and still had to desperately hold on for dear life on the 12th. A rematch was certainly warranted.

    Parker came in way too heavy and with the wrong game plan for Joyce. Still an excellent display from Joyce, as it became a war of attrition where he proved himself the better man on the night.
     
  11. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Seems like Parker is aiming to come in lighter this time

    A good decision
     
  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Joyce would happily fight Wilder"

    Queensbury are no doubt looking to feed damaged goods Joyce to Dubois in a rematch.

    "AJ has consistently fought top ten opposition for years"

    He's been consistently kept away from Ortiz, Wilder and Fury for years but still managed to lose three times.

    "rip on Parker losing two controversial decisions"

    If those losses were controversial then the wins against Chisora and Ruiz were controversial, perhaps the Hughie, Fa and Takam fights too. Parker's level is clear at this point.

    "Wilder would likely be worse off if he also fought the big names."

    He's fought the biggest name three times and Ortiz was also better than Parker. Parker's opposition has been a lot easier overall than Wilder's. Joyce's ex-trainer for instance openly admitted to keeping him away from a post-Wilder 1 Ortiz.

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  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure but Parker still lost. If we're going to get revisionistic, most thought he didn't beat Ruiz or Chisora 1.
     
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  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The goal is to maximise money, which means minimising risk where possible. Getting starched by Wilder would be a significant risk that they'd rather not take at this point, even for big money.
     
  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Not relevant when Wilder wouldn't take the fight anyway.

    2. Ortiz ducked AJ. It's on record, even his manager admitted it.

    3. You make that claim anyway, doesn't change the AJ and Whyte fights from being controversial.

    4. He drew once (widely considered a robbery), lost twice against Fury. He beat Ortiz twice, but who has Ortiz actually beaten of note? Ortiz was offered AJ at a career high payday and ran away, and lost all of his big fights. The fact that people pitch Jennings as a good win because he lost to Wlad in a slightly better fashion than anyone else is ridiculous.
     
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