Parker weighing in at 267 lbs

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  1. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Also weight classes exist for a reason, that reason is for natural size. Inoue, or Canelo, or usyk can’t put on weight and go to hw and still be a puncher as naturally they don’t fit there.
     
  2. MaccaveliMacc

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    I don't know. I boxed at 68kgs and 85kgs and my sparring partners felt the difference with me not changing the technique much. I can't box to save my life, but the additional power was felt. I also took punches better.
     
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  3. ruffryders

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    Weight can help you take punches, if you are still fit.

    I think the most effective thing would be that you have more experience rather than the weight, unless you have naturally grown hence “becoming a man” sort of strength/power.

    People do not like to believe it, but punching power is well known as a natural ability. Once you have developed your techniques, so your using your power, it won’t increase much after. I’m talking people who are over 25 have fully grown.
    Many don’t get their full man strength till after 20
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Whenever there is a weak puncher in boxing, I can easily break it down and prove that it´s because of technique. Everyone can be a KO artist with the proper technique.
    But there are undoubtedly those who have natural power that exceeds most.
     
  5. ruffryders

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    I get what you mean, technique is what brings power. But to have that special power is natural.

    I think you’re going a bit far saying you could teach anyone to be a ko artist. Shakur would pay you a lot of money to teach him lol.
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Are you saying that Shakur has good punching technique? Probably not.
    And why can´t Shakur learn how to put weight behind his punches? It´s not some special physical ability some have and others don´t.

    I think Sergio Martinez is a brilliant example of someone who learned to sit down on their punches.
     
  7. ruffryders

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    You said everyone can be a ko artist.
    I’m sure Shakur and his team would appreciate the extra power so what does he need to do to get it?
    A guy that’s boxed since 6 and gone through the system, nobody has picked up on it yet ?

    I think You will agree putting on weight won’t help him?
     
  8. MaccaveliMacc

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    But I went down to around 73kg again and the drop in power was felt again. Dunno. But it seems intuitive that the mass gives at least some boost in power.
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    His issue isn´t the lack of weight. It´s the fact that he puts absolutely no leverage on his punches. Shakur is an arm puncher.
    So yes, in theory I could teach him how to throw much heavier punches, which would lead to more KO´s.
     
  10. ruffryders

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    Why have you moved 40lbs in weight?

    I know you said you can’t box, with you moving weight around so much im guessing your being honest and transparent with that statement.

    It may be useful to a guy who can’t box to add weight, but to someone who can box, it generally doesn’t as they don’t need to compensate for lack of ability.

    I tried to not give personal experiences as examples as they have several unknown factors.
     
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  11. ruffryders

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    He still would not be a ko puncher.

    Sitting on his punches more would use more of shakurs power, but shakurs power maybe is ineffective when he does use it.

    Which may be the reason he boxes like he does?
     
  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Have you trained as a boxer, at all? It´s simple physics. The sole reason Shakur´s punches are so light is because he does not put any weight or leverage behind them. It has nothing to do with his physique.

    I recommend you watch this video. There is a lot of yapping, but it´s worth the watch.
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  13. ruffryders

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    lol. Yes in short.

    Shakur himself has boxed since 6 and dedicated his life to it. On international level as an am and is on the world level now as a pro, he’s been through the system and had several high level coaches.

    You think none have taught him or tried to develop more power?
    It’s not simple physics or everyone in the world would punch like beterbiev.

    I never said it’s his physique, I’m arguing against weight increases thinking it increases power. I’m the one saying technique matters to maximise your capability. However I doubt Shakur would ever be a ko puncher, it’s not something you can teach.

    every fighter trains from young to have max power and speed etc. every kid wants to punch hard. If it was possible they would be doing it, they all would rather a ko than win on points
     
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  14. Badbot

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    So explain how Sergio Martinez turned out into such a powerful puncher. When he first fought Richard Williams he had only 11KO´s in 29 fights. In his subsequent 31 fights from there, he scored 21KO´s.
    Clearly he improved his technique over the years, and was sitting down on his punches a lot more.

    Just because Shakur has been boxing since he was a kid, doesn´t mean he has learned optimal technique. He is very evidently an arm puncher, thus the lack of power.
     
  15. ruffryders

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    Since you’re asking, do you have or had a career in boxing? I don’t just mean trained in a gym or watched YouTube vids on it

    you don’t have to answer this as I’m
    pretty sure I know already.
     
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