Parker weighing in at 267 lbs

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Limited amateur and semi-pro career. I say semi-pro because I boxed several fights under professional boxing rules, with the local commission and it´s officials doing the officiating, but they were not officially sanctioned bouts. Small scale shows that were used for record padding. I and others were given an opportunity to partake, and I could have gotten those fights on a professional record, but I never bothered to go through with the medicals and paperwork. Would have been disingenuous because I was not an actual boxer.

    Shakur has more experience in the gym, but I know from my own experience that one can improve their punch technique and gain more power. Shakur is an arm puncher, that is why he lacks power.
    I am also aware that some people truly have more power than others, but in the end it comes down to technique.
     
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    Maravilla started boxing very late and learned on the job. Bad example. This is why I say give several examples to show a pattern, instead of trying to show an exception to the rule “punchers are born not made”

    I’ve never said technique doesn’t matter, it takes years to learn properly, but even if Shakur focused on power for 3 years, he wouldn’t be punching like kostya tszyu or Diego corralles around that weight.
     
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  3. Badbot

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    I think he would, but lets say that he wouldn´t. What he would be capable of is punching harder, much harder. Mayweather was not a KO artist per say, but his power was vicious at 130, and 135. Even at 140 he was still hurting opponents with ease. Later on he changed his style.

    If Diego Corrales had the same technique as Paul Williams, then he would be as weak of a puncher as Williams was.
     
  4. ruffryders

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    So to cut the story, white collar is what you mean basically.

    shakurs technically is fine. WHEN He throws his power shots they are fine. He just lacks power. The arm punches he throws are intended for speed.
    A fighter who lacks power develops a style that is less dependent on power.

    do you believe in his lifetime of boxing at high levels, nobody has thought he could do with more power, especially considering that’s his biggest flaw and critics go on about it the most?
    This is why I say, if you could guarantee to give him serious ko power, get in contact with them, you would earn enough to retire on.
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Yea, I guess.

    Shakur does what Shakur wants. Many trainers could fix his technique, if he wanted it to be fixed. My overall point is that he could punch harder if he used the right technique. You are right in your assertion that he has chosen speed over power.
     
  6. ruffryders

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    Fighters spend years on heavy bags to develop their power shots. They have already done this. It’s their life and career.

    For a guy who’s a beginner, learning technique is important to increase power, but they’ve done all this. How do they create power once they are at their ceiling? They can’t.

    If Shakur or Pauli malignahi used the technique of a ko artist, he wouldn’t start ko’ing everybody.

    Floyd has enough power to get respect, but he’s no ko artist. Why? Because he hasn’t learned punch technique yet?
     
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    Because he doesn’t have the power to implement it

    you don’t choose a style you like, the style you have generated over years centering around your attributes
     
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  8. Kiwi Casual

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    Yeah mate, ignoring physics totally makes sense. All these years and boxing is immune to it. Good to know...
     
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  9. Badbot

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    Yes they would. Well, to an extent of course. But they would not have such low KO %.

    Did you watch the video I shared. It perfectly explains how to generate more power, and showcases a boxer in his mid 20s learning to throw more powerful punches. A boxer who was slightly younger than Shakur.
     
  10. ruffryders

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    So why doesn’t every boxer just become a ko artist? If it’s so easily trainable?
    why leave things in the judges hands when every coach tells their fighters to try not leaving it in judges hands?
    Why not earn loads more money and ko everyone and be in demand?
    Every fighter would love to have big ko power, do they just not know that the saying “punchers are born not made” is a myth and you just watch a YouTube video?

    Sorry mate, I don’t learn boxing from YouTube vids. I’ve learned it from a lifetime and career in boxing and being around others who have lived the sport and had careers, teachers.

    show Shakur, Floyd and ward etc that vid, maybe they haven’t seen it either. Or they don’t know technique. truth is, it will be for beginners not advanced people

    There’s more fighters without ko power than there are fighters with it. Do they all just not know how to punch?
     
  11. ruffryders

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    Your talking gravity…there is no gravitational forces relevant to the power of punches.

    Boxing is an art, not a science. Putting own weight doesn’t equal more power. Ask Prince Naz if he hits harder now he’s 15st lol.
     
  12. Badbot

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    Yes.
     
  13. ruffryders

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    lol. You could become a legend in the sport. The best trainer of the century. Turns every fighter into a ko artist.
    That’s like winning the lottery!

    They will call you his excellency!!
     
  14. Badbot

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    OK.
    Paulie Malignaggi had a low KO% not because he was born that way, it was because he literally slapped his opponents. Rarely ever did he turn his hips and put his weight behind his punches. And he preferred to land with his palms rather than the knuckles.
     
  15. Kiwi_in_America

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    Parker did weights and exercises to improve his "core" and explosive arm power

    He put on weight in the right way doing the right thing

    I think more boxers could do it