PARKER will USE "MOVEMENT, SPEED and ANGLES"

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I find Parker's footwork to be too flat for him to offer angles and move in and out of AJ's range without getting clocked himself. I'd love to see Parker pull it off but I have my doubts about his abilities.
     
  2. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    What!? Whyte had ZERO success on the inside against Joshua. The 2nd round which was his only marginal fleeting moment of success was because Joshua was moving in on him and he caught him at mid range on the way in. At no point can I recall Whyte having any success on the inside, as Joshua was nailing him with the uppercut each time. For the bigger heavies, I'd argue that Joshua is one of the few actually willing to fight on the inside and is getting a lot better at it, just ask Wlad who sustained a fair amount of damage on the inside and in the clinch.
     
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  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    The McGregor blueprint
     
  4. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshuas good on the inside when hes moving in on you but he's not when the shoes on the other foot. Whyte had a lot more success than the second round. Its the worst Joshua's ever fought. People put it down to he just wanted a fight cause it was whyte. I don't think it was it was more that whyte went in throwing two,s and threes. Going forward. Most of their downfall against Joshua is they let him come onto them...he gets them eventually. or he gets them after they,ve threw a single shot. He blocks it and steps in. Whyte putting two and three together put Joshua on the backfoot long enough to stop Joshua's counter. He had to reset. Its there you need to get him. Then you can back off. Go for a walk. But don't go into him with singles. Especially parker because parker struggles with the same thing...they can deal pretty well with the first punch...its the second and third they struggle with.

    The boy breazeale beat would do it. Izo udugo or something like that. He was throwing two,s and threes hard at breazeale had him all over the place with it before breazeale actually beat him. But its always been a particular style that will beat Joshua. Or a lucky shot.

    Whytes success wasn't really on the inside I,ll agree with that..it was in getting into that inside he had a lot of success. He closed the gap very well. A lot better than anyone else. Its parkers only real way to win. Cause on the outside your not doing much with a 74 inch reach against Joshua. He needs to go forward putting his punches together. Joshua does freeze slightly. Pretty sure mckrackens telling him to stay where he is...but it,ll lead to his downfall. He can't get out nearly as good as klitchko. Who got out before an attack was allowed to begin. Before resetting to edge in to get his jab off. Rinse and repeat. Joshua can't move back quick enough to do it. You,ve got to get him on the back foot.

    Movement speed and angles isn,t the answer against joshua for someone with a 74 inch reach.
     
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  5. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Parker doesn’t have championship grit and determination. You’ll all see when this dude folds up like a lawn chair. He’s going to try to flurry and will get caught. Then he’s going to backpeddle for most of the fight like Cotto. I think it’s going to be a stinker.

    Mammals who are loud like Parker and in the manner he’s gone about it are trying to make up for something they lack. He’s not an Alpha. His performance will be bad and expect an excuse. Bank on it. Bookmark this post, I dgaf. Just watch.
     
  6. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Good well thought out post, a rare sight on these forums!

    Against Whyte Joshua burned up a lot of nervous anxious energy, so Whyte's fleeting moment of success was getting into that mid range where he could put a few punches together. What I saw in the Wlad fight was an evolution though, he seemed pretty comfortable letting Wlad come to him and looking to counter for periods, then switching it up moving forward. I think Parker needs to just come forward relentlessly and fire combo's when he's in the mid range, as like you say, his little t-rex arms wont win a battle of the jabs!
     
  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    For a big guy, Parker has much more fluid movement and speed than AJ

    At his best he also flurries well with a good range of hard shots

    I give him a good chance because of this
     
  8. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    No sure how many "A" class sparing partners are left out there as Wilder has already got them..
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Keywords "against Dimitrenko"
     
  10. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Wilder's sparring partners:

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  11. bbjc

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    Its starting to sound like parkers turning up to lose with the more I hear from him tbh. A sort of he doesnt even believe he,ll win attitude just got to try his best and he,ll. be happy. Same with his promoter.

    Totally going the wrong way about it for me. When they we,re playing it perfectly prior to signing the fight. You need to rile Joshua up. Whytes really the only one that done it and Joshua was all over the place in that fight...not even talking about when whyte caught him. Pretty much most of the fight. He threw his discipline out the window and very nearly paid for it.

    Joshua actually played parker like a fiddle in the press conference with his respect each other chat its him trying to get/keep control. Klitschko's done the same stuff...its kind of passive aggressve but it keeps them in control. Its no coincidence fury who took Klitschko out his comfort zone beat him. Or even chisora gave the brother a bit of a fight again getting him out his comfort zone. Same with whyte against Joshua.

    Guys like Joshua/Klitschko's need that control. It becomes easy for them when they have it. As an opponent you need to take it out their hands by any means necessary. Wouldn't,t surprise me if its a passive parker against Joshua. When he needs to do the opposite. Break that control. Get him into a fight...and drown him.

    We know Joshua's good...he really excels at a few different things. But with the weaknesses hes got hes genuinely there for the taking. The guy shuts down completely for rounds at a time if you tag him hard enough. Its a massive problem for him considering he doesn,t judge distance nearly as well as Klitschko.

    I ve never seen heavyweights turning up with so little belief. Especially against a guy with a massive weakness like Joshua has. I m telling you if parker goes in throwing two,s and threes puts Joshua on the back foot in the exchange it will let him gets out quick enough.

    Joshua will try to fire back...cause hes actually quite impulsive...he can' help himself. If Parker gets out in time...Joshua stamina will go after he starts to miss and the tempo keeps going up. Joshua can read the first punch its the second and third that makes him a bit unsure. He usually just tries to defend. Before firing back. Single shots play into his hands tho. Unless you can match him length wise anyway. The this g is I be seen parker doing it. But got a feeling he,ll be stuck on the back foot on the outside.
     
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  12. C.J.

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  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Parker knows what he has to do: sit in the pocket, lay traps and ambushes, make Joshua miss like he did vs both Takam and WK and wear out his tank. He needs to feint, slip punches and get around him. WK's flying hook did a lot of damage on Joshua and almost had him out in round 5. Parker is obviously not WK in terms of skill and power but he has the youth and hunger and is not expected to win here. Pressure is all on Joshua.
     
  14. Lith

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    Maybe be a cultural or character thing you are misreading. This is not the first time that people have believed they see chinks in Parkers confidence or motivation and it hasn't turned out to be the case at all.

    To me he seems excited and trying to reign himself in.