Parker Would Always Beat Wilder. Wilder Would Always Beat Joshua

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joseph Parker has the style to beat Deontay Wilder and always has. He has good defense, chin, short enough to not get hit by Wilders straight right, strong enough to push Wilder back and his lack of power isnt a huge deal.

    Deontay Wilder would always beat Anthony Joshua because Joshua doesn't move his head. Joshua doesnt have the gas tank to out box Wilder. Joshua can get him out of their first but that most likely wont happen.

    Anthony Joshua would always beat Parker. Joshua size and power will always bother Parker and Parker cant hurt him enough. Unlike vs Wilder, Parker wont be able to win off outboxing Joshua and pushing him back.

    Styles make fights.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Doesn't matter now. It will always be a question.

    Wilder's team shouldn't have fought Parker. They needed two Wallins really.

    Or just sucked up courage and balls to go straight into a fight with each other?
     
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  3. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im with you. They botched the chance at a mega fight. Im afraid this will be this generations version of Bowe/Lewis
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    With how little Wilder does, the gas tank isn't a significant problem.

    Joshua also has a better chin than anyone Wilder's knocked out - and enough skill to outbox him comfortably.

    Realistically it's a question of levels - Wilder was always an overprotected and under proven fighter.

    The very best version of Wilder might beat the very worst of Joshua... But prime for prime Joshua would've dealt with Wilder with ease and right now would dominate him too.

    There's levels to boxing and Joshua is better in almost every department.
     
  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Disagree with this. Wilders constant threat of power causes heavyweights to move and expend a lot of energy. This was seen in his fights vs Ortiz and the Fury fight
     
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  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    The biggest difference being that Bowe actually beat some respectable fighters... Nobody Wilder beat belongs on the same page as Golota, nevermind Holyfield... By contrast Wilder is a borderline fraud.

    Admittedly Joshua isn't in the GOAT conversation like Lewis is, but he at least beat a decent number of the better fighters of his era.

    I suppose the parallels are that it's a fight the fans wanted and never got, and one the lesser fighter (Bowe and Wilder, respectively) shamelessly ducked... I just don't think it's quite the same.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua survived huge punches off of Wladimir and survived, and Wladimir is a better offensive KO artist than Wilder due to having more skills and better variety in his offence.

    Yes Wladimir was old but still Wladimir really went for it against Joshua and was certainly looked way better than what Wilder did.

    Joshua got caught with a equilibrium shot vs Ruiz and it messed it him up for entire fight, now people think Joshua has a weak chin and no heart which is rubbish.

    Ward got caught with a similar shot vs Gatti in 2nd fight and he said he had no legs for rest of the fight.
     
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  8. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Fair enough.

    I would only point out that Ortiz was 4 years older and on heart meds, and Fury was unit in 1/3 and in 2 (when he was actually fit) it didn't last long enough for him to tire much.

    I don't think Joshua's gas tank would prevent him dominating Wilder.
     
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  9. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad should have stopped AJ, he definitely had the ability to do so but he tried to play it safe and it backfired. I was a Wlad fan and will always look back at this fight with regret because Wlad should have won. Credit to AJ for getting the job done.
     
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  10. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    By now Wilder can only beat washed up fighters like him imo. Joshua would KO him or would win by UD like Parker.

    He didnt manage to land one only decent right hand in his last bout.
     
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  11. FrankinDallas

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    Wilder vs Joshua would still be a compelling fight. And Eddie H isn't afraid now to put it together because it's obvious Wilder is washed up. I think it still would be a money maker.
     
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  12. Rodrigo Boom

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    I disagree. I think Wilder is a terrible boxer and Joshua would easily outbox him by doing very little. He wouldn't even get near gassing out.
     
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  13. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    I feel the same. He didnt let his hands go. Also it was a pre mature stopage. If they let it go on Joshua would likeky have used his last fuel reserv and Wlad could have had come back once again.

    But I mostly blame Wlad on that fight aswell. Also Joshua was not prime either. It was a twilight meeting. Old Dragon vs young lion. Not peak vs peak.
     
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  14. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Maybe...

    At the same time, Joshua was always the main draw in that fight - AJ-Wilder would still be a decent money maker, but would it make all that much more than, say, AJ-Hrgovic or AJ-Zhang?
    I would think probably not, especially when you consider the cuts they'd be willing to take would be much smaller than Wilder - so if AJ pockets a similar amount and gets a more useful fight (in terms of position within the division and getting back into the belts), surely it'd be a no brainer?

    Besides, AJ and Hearn have wasted plenty of time and effort chasing the Wilder fight when it might've counted for something... Why chase the guy who never wanted it again now it's not worthwhile??
     
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  15. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Just today I read he refused a boatload of cash to face Joshua in the next months.

    Washed up.

    [url]https://www.the-express.com/sport/boxing/122381/deontay-wilder-anthony-joshua-fight[/url]
     
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