PARKER's PROMOTER Flying to UK to SIGN CONTRACT

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have no idea how to find those. The point is Wilder brings US VIEWERS that Joshua DOESN'T draw.

    That's the point. That's what Wilder brings - several million US viewers who aren't watching Anthony Joshua fights.
     
  2. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    So are you saying those several million US viewers are going to make up 50% of the profit for this fight?

    If so then I stand corrected and if AJ gets past Parker then 50/50 it should be..

    I suspect given AJ is getting far larger purses fighting mandatory's than Wilder can dream of that in fact Wilder doesn't really bring any additional funds to the table that could remotely justify a 50/50 split...

    Your boy and his team have had a reality check and they realise they come up well short hence now they are trying to market him (which should of happened ages ago)..
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They charge a helluva lot more for PPVs in the US than they do the UK.

    UK PPVs are like $28. PPVs in the US haven't been that cheap since 1990.

    The US charges THREE TIMES THAT for ordinary PPVs.

    So, quite likely yes!!
     
  4. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    joshua fights are not PPV in america though because of time zone differences

    do hbo or showtime charge ppv in america for 2 .30 to 5.30 fights ?

    if a wilder v joshua fight took place in the uk i am guessing that would dip the numbers a lot in america?

    not sure why boxing is such a late night sport / put it on like normal sporting events when it is easier to travel to and from venues .
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    But I didnt think Joshua was known in America? If hes not known would the numbers be massive?
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've purchased quite a few boxing PPVs on Saturday afternoons over the years. Haye-Valuev. Khan-Barrera. Hatton-Maussa (as sad as that is to say).

    There's no law that says fights have to air in the evening in the U.S.

    And you're right. A PPV from the UK that airs on a Saturday afternoon in the US would likely do well.

    The SUPER BOWL begins every year around 5:30 p.m. (central time) in the U.S. to maximize viewership.
     
  7. Dubblechin

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    How massive do they have to be? They have to sell three PPVs in the UK to equal one in the US.

    If they sell a million PPVs in the UK, that's the equivalent of 330,000 buys in the U.S.
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats a ridiculous comment. I understand that you are trying to imply that there are 3 times the amount of people but what you have in reality is one fighter who is PPV already and making big money on UK PPV whoever he fights.
    How many PPVs has Wilder been involved in, in the US?
    Why do you think if Wilder is not PPV in America and Joshua not known to America it is going to get a 3rd of the amount of fans in the country to equal that of the UK sales?
    If Wilders not PPV in the US and they dont know Joshua then I doubt it will sell that much in the US, whereas in the UK it would be a PPV success.
     
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  9. IsaL

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    Fax machine? What are you, living in the 90's?

    Scan and email buddy. Very simple.
     
  10. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Only problem is Wilder isn't PVP worthy nor has any of his fight been PVP and I suspect it wold be a huge bomb if it was PVP because casuals (who spend the money) don't know Wilder. I repeat don't know (or care) about Wilder. Free to air TV is not bringing anything to the table to remotely warrant 50%.

    It seems you are trying to convince yourself Wilder is Mayweather and that will never be the case.

    The only way Wilder could become a PVP star is to beat AJ but he seems to be delusional about his current worth...

    Again if he want this fight he should take what he is worth (probs 30%) get the win and cash in after...
     
  11. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Either way an especially booked round the world flight seems excessive.
     
  12. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    If Parker wins it will be Parker - Wilder in Vegas.

    Could likely happen.
     
  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Looking at some recent ppv sales of fighters far more famous than Deontay Wilder you'd have to think 330,000 sales is a big ask for his ppv debut. I can't see it myself.

    Anyway as I'm not getting the money myself I don't care who gets what in the end. I just don't think Deontay is being realistic as he doesn't really want to get destroyed by the Watford body builder who we're only going to see be really tested when some of the hot prospects to have turned pro in the last few years start to establish themselves on the world scene.*

    *Lest Fury comes back as serious player but that looks very, very doubtful at the minute.
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I like Parker and it'd be hilarious if he could upset the applecart here but I can't really envisage it with his power and skills starting to look pretty average since he's started fighting better opposition.

    Good luck to Joe though, seems like a good dude.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    First of all, you don't know what I'm trying to imply because I'm not "implying" anything.

    The US charges more than $80 for PPVs . The UK charges roughly one-third of that for PPVs (in the $25-$30 range).

    Hell, I doubt Anthony Joshua would be on PPV in the UK if they charged UK boxing fans roughly $80 for one of his PPVs.

    I've been on social media and British fans are outraged that the Joseph Parker fight with Joshua might be the $30 range. We pay three times that in the U.S.

    To make as much money on a UK PPV as they would in the US, Hearn would have to sell roughly three times the number of PPVs in the UK as the number of buys in the US, because each buy in the US is three times more than one buy in the UK.

    I have no doubt a Wilder-Joshua PPV would sell in the US. It's the biggest heavyweight fight that can be made right now (until Fury returns).

    What's a PPV success in the UK? How many buys? Whatever that number is, they only have to sell one-third of that in the US (because they charge more in the US for PPVs) to generate the same money.

    So if you're asking does Wilder bring half the money to deserve 50-50, I'm saying it's quite possible he does.

    If they sell like 1.5 million PPVs in the UK (which is what I believe Joshua-Wlad sold), they only have to sell 500,000 PPVs in the US to equal that.

    Which shouldn't be a problem for a world heavyweight championship unification featuring two KO artists. Casual sports fans in the US love undisputed world heavyweight championship fights.