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personally i am sad the sport i have followed for so many years has gone down the ppv route

as soon as someone gets a world title its PPV
thats ****

only joshua v klitchko justified a ppv if such a thing should exsist

how can boxing ever be popular if fights are ppv

fights were free and watched by 1 in every 3 people /man /woman/grannys /kids and boxers like magri/ etc etc were household names when i was 16

now how many teens pay for ppv
how many mums
how many oap
how many hard up

with people still at school at 22 and skint whats left 23 to 60 year old men in work to buy ppv
and i really pick and chose / i begrudge paying for something ppv i am already paying £80 a month for with my sky subscription.

 

I think a Deontay Wilder-Anthony Joshua heavyweight unification fight would draw more US viewers than Pac-Bradley III.

 

How many do you think Wilder could sell against any other opponent?

How many PPVs would you estimate Joshua to sell against another American HW like Miller?

 

That's the same conversation US fans were having 30 years ago.

I remember when TVKO started hosting monthly PPVs for $20 in 1990. And the promoters here never really looked back. By 1991, Holyfield-Foreman was $35. And it went up every year afterward.

We topped out at $100 for Floyd Mayweather's last couple fights.

You have a long way to go.

Get back to me when you're being charged £100 for EACH Anthony Joshua PPV.

Same thing happened here.

And then people come on here and make fun of Wilder because he hasn't been on PPV yet.

If PPVs were $20, I'm sure Wilder would be. But they aren't, so they're still trying to build up his recognition. And they are.

 

I think Wilder-Joshua or Wilder-Fury are the only heavyweight PPVs that can be made in the U.S. (Consider Joshua-Parker isn't going to be on PPV in the U.S.)

If they make Wilder-Fury before Joshua comes to the table, and Wilder starches Fury, I think Joshua would be lucky to get 50-50 with Wilder after that.

I think Joshua will probably always sell more tickets at the arena. But you can only make so much at the gate.

Wilder already draws (ALOT) more viewers in the States than Joshua does. If Wilder gets to Fury first, those viewership numbers are only going to get bigger for Wilder (both in the US and the UK).

 

hope im still here in 30 years to ask
ill be well into my 80s by then

telling all the youngsters on esb that all the small heavys like joshua and wilder of the noughtys would still beat all there 300lb 7 footers of the 2050 generation

 

I hope I'm here then, too. I'll be the same age. And I'll back you up. We old timers have to stick together.

 

What you are forgetting is Joshua isn't a PPV star in the US EITHER. None of Joshua's fights have been on PPV in the U.S. Joshua-Klitschko wasn't on PPV in the U.S. Joshua-Parker won't be on PPV in the U.S.

Joshua's fights draw a fraction of the Viewers in the U.S. that Wilder does.

If Joshua wants to become a PPV star "in the US" he needs WILDER.

Wilder could fight Fury on PPV in the US, too. It might even draw more than Wilder-Joshua after Wilder and Tyson get done with their prefight jawing.

On the other hand, I doubt Joshua-Fury would be on PPV in the US.

Joshua's ticket to the US market is Deontay Wilder.

 

Too many lmao's in your posts, throw in a few PMSL or ROFL's occasionally Blizzy. Mix it up a bit buddy.

 

Wilder doesn't bring several millions, what are you talking about? His bout with Stiverne II was 800k viewers.
His fight with Washington was on FOX and did only 1.7 mil.

This is him fighting in in Alabama, you see those empty seats?

http://photo.boxing scene.com/uploads/wilder-washington-fight%20(16).jpg

Wilder brings nothing in his own country, which is reflected in his CHECKS. He gets the same checks Haymon writes to Stevenson, Danny Garcia, Berto and Thurman.

Wilder hasn't even broken a 1.5$ million payday yet.

Parker will earn 10$ mil from facing Joshua, 5 times more than what Wilder and Ortiz will make COMBINED.

 

Joshua-Takam drew 350,000 viewers in the US (a million and a half fewer viewers than Wilder-Washington).

Joshua-Wlad (labeled the biggest heavyweight fight in years and the Fight of the Year) drew 600,000 US viewers on Showtime. (Less than Wilder-Stiverne II.)

Again, no heavyweight draws more viewers in the US than Deontay Wilder. Even with the best opponent he could find (Klitschko), Joshua COULDN'T draw more fans in the US than Wilder did against late subs Washington and Stiverne.

Only 18,000 people turned for Mayweather-Pac, and Mayweather made 10 TIMES what Joshua makes, because of US PPV sales. Nobody posted pictures of the crowd, because the size of the crowd didn't really matter.

The "gate is Anthony Joshua's WHOLE deal. That's becoming more and more apparent.

Consider that if they announced Wilder and Parker were fighting on PPV for $30 in the US, fans on this board in the US would ridicule Wilder for having to charge such a small PPV fee to get fans. He'd be laughed at. "Can't charge normal rates?" "What a joke!"

On the other hand, in the UK, Hearn is talking about $30-something charge for Joshua-Parker, and UK boxing fans are SHOCKED at the ENORMOUS fee and are threatening not to buy this Joshua fight.

Joshua is an exciting fighter. But the hype around him is starting to seem a little exaggerated now that UK fans are asked to pay a fraction of what they do in the US for PPVs. If they charged $85 for Joshua-Parker in the UK, nobody in the UK would buy it. There'd be a boycott.

If Joshua wants to crack the US PPV market, Wlad didn't do it for him. Parker isn't going to get him there. (That won't be on PPV either.) Only WILDER will.

How much is that worth to them? 50-50?

 

You have no concept of context when it comes to anything. Why are you bringing up AJ's numbers in the US?
I asked you for Wilder's ratings in the UK and you REFUSED to provide them!

AJ is not based nor is he promoted in the US.
Wilder is BASED in US, that's his HOME country and I just provided to you his abysmal ratings. He's SUPPOSED to be #1 heavyweight attraction here.

Here's a list of US heavyweight boxers, thank God Wilder is the biggest draw! I would hope so! LOL

http://boxrec.com/en/ratings?offset=0&sex=M&division=Heavyweight&country=US

You're clearly delusional when it comes to PPVs. Mayweather's 'farewell' fight with Berto did 450k. Wilder is not gonna draw more than Floyd Mayweather in his FIRST PPV ever! LOL How deluisonal are you?

Wilder-AJ PPV in US will fall in the same ballpark as Crawford-Postol and Kov-Ward, around 100k. That's it.

AJ is not marketed and promoted in the US, he has little drawing power here, Wilder in his HOME country is also unknown, he's filling up around 10k in Alabama and Barclay, and this guy gonna generate 500k buys in his first PPV fight?
You're clearly not thinking this through.

 

LOL If AJ wants to get into the US market he doesn't need Wilder because Wilder isn't a draw.

If he was he would be PVP already and this would be a non argument.. Why isn't Wilder PVP already?

It seems you are basing you entire argument on Wilder's free to air figures translating into PVP figures which is never going to be the case..

Only got the figures they did because it was Free to Air, what does AJ do on free to air actually how many boxing matches are actually shown of free to air???

"The rating made the Wilder-Washington fight the most-watched boxing match thus far this year in the United States, though the telecast obviously was available to many more viewers than typical HBO, Showtime and basic-cable broadcasts because it was televised on free TV."

Honestly if you are basing your argument on Wilder getting free to air figures to justify him trying to get 50% of the purse then you really need to go to a different thread maybe one Blizzy starts...

 

Lol Wilders already priced himself out fighting AJ,look what Gennady Golovkin did with Canelo,he was the holder of four belts and yet he understood that he wasn’t the A side both in terms of PPvs sold and money earnt so he did everything to make it happen.
Wilders 50/50 thing is what we call pricing oneself out of the fight and right now as somebody already mentioned there’s only two guys in AJ and Parker who are serious about unifying.

 

Once I see you guys post "Wikder is pricing himself out" it makes me smile and laugh because that is your last resort. The pressure is building and you Joshua fanatics are scared.