PARKER's PROMOTER Flying to UK to SIGN CONTRACT

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    In the U.K. yeah. Not in the states and since Joshuas gates are always low the fight can be made into a ppv fight in America or both are showcased.
     
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  2. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joshua isnt earning 20-30 mil.
     
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  3. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua earned $20+ million vs Wlad and $14 million vs Takam. He will likely earn $15-20 million vs Parker.
     
  4. Popnvg

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    Where's my Boy Blizzy at.The Pride of Alabama.Big Femi is coming for all you Alabama's
     
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  5. Popnvg

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    Big Femi is coming boy,protect your Girl Deonaty Leshun Wilder when he is laid out.Alabama v London bring it on bitches.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not really cause I know that Wilder is only selling the fight and that in the end he’ll take under 40%,seems to be the modern way to hype fights.
    Now then Blizzy if after Parker and Ortiz he holds out for 50% then that’s pricing oneself out
     
  7. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What makes you sure just after Parker/Ortiz is the apex financially?

    What I mean is why wouldn't you continue to believe he's hyping the fight?

    Doesn't it stand to reason they'll be looking at how well it's working after Parker/Ortiz? I mean if AJ stays more or less around 15-20 mil and Wilder against Ortiz brings in an all time high that still is not 15-20mil mighten they try to see how high they can get it by fighting maybe Pov or some such before giving in to AJ? Because for the winner of Parker-AJ there's only one lateral option left and that's Wilder but for Wilder taking a uni fight would still be a step up and Povetkin or maybe Pulev or some such is still a lateral move.

    To say that differently, they may ride the wave longer because Wilder fans would certainly be happy with a Pov fight.
     
  8. bailey

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    Your comment below
    Thats implying something in my opinion

    Would be around $30

    Who knows. What is known is that he sells well on PPV and has massive stadium audiences

    It is what it is. They possibly are outraged and I dont like PPV. Let me explain. We already have to pay for Sky. Depending on your subscription/package and how many Sky boxes, that can be around £200 in some cases so around $270 that they pay monthly, so asking for an additional $30 dollars when they pay that much anyway can be a bit of a sore point.
    I doubt you were aware of that?

    Once again, not necessarily so. Sky are already involved. See above.

    Still once again you are assuming (from how it looks to me) that it will sell in the US and once again if Wilder is not PPV in America and Joshua is not known to America, then why would it sell in America?
    With that it may not sell at all there

    So Joshua is known?
    It may well do but Joshua is still the draw.
    with what you are saying it sounds like you feel Wilder needs AJ for PPV whereas Joshua is PPV alr
    So you were insinuating that but forget that one is a proven PPV success whereas the other is not.
    So you are just guessing
    Right? So one fills stadiums, other doesnt, one is a PPV success the other is not at this time, one has 2 titles, possibly 3 if they meet, the other has 1. One has taken far bigger fights than the other.
    So you think 50/50 based on an assumption that it will sell rather than it actually selling even though one isnt filling big venues in their own country.
    Look at the purses each are getting at this time and really try and think about it


    Once again that isnt so as the PPVs in the UK are already paying throughout the year for Sky at often an expensive rate per month.
    Look at it this way (in dollars) if on average fans in the UK pay $100 dollars a month for Sky every month which goes towards all these things, it really wont be anything like you are saying.
    They would have paid $1230 throughout the course of the year. Now I know not all of that goes to just the one event, but also consider how many people pay for Sky who arent fans but subscribing and would have in some way contributed, so there is money going in there also.
    I wouldnt be shocked if that UK cut far outweighs

    Not being sarcastic. Hope that all makes sense?
     
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  9. Dubblechin

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    What's the difference between that and paying $185 a month for DirecTV and another $15 for each DirecTV box in your house? And still being charged $100 for a boxing PPV?

    People routinely pay more than $2,000 a year for DirecTV and still have to pay $100 for PPVs.

    The situations still sound the same. We're just paying for $100 PPVs and you're paying $30 for them.

    That's why I cancelled DirecTV after 20 years and I just bought a Roku and pay for a few apps each month.
     
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  10. bailey

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    About $100 dollars from the first figure I gave you.

    Jokes aside that is a valid point which I wasnt aware of.

    I didnt realise that in order to watch Wilder fight you would have to be paying a subscription in the first place regardless of PPV or not
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    I bought an antenna. So I can watch Wilder fight on network TV for free.

    The government still mandates some channels be broadcast "over the air".

    But the vast majority of people watch the "free" channels using a PAY satellite service like DirecTV or XFinity or DISH. Because it's included in the bundle.

    Still, some of those "free" channels like CBS are now only showing certain shows they offer (like Star Trek) if you watch their channel on a subscription service. So you HAVE to have a subscription service to see all their shows. So they're getting around government mandates.

    Regardless, basically everybody in the US who is watching TV is paying for a monthly subscription and watching it on there, unless you're watching streams on their computer or a device like a Roku (which you guys can do, too).

    Any time Wilder fights on Showtime, you have to have a monthly Satellite or cable subscription service (with boxes) and then pay an extra monthly subscription for Showtime or HBO on top of it to see them. And PPV is another $100 a card on top of that.

    Cord cutters are people who just cancel all cable services, buy an antenna, and watch streaming apps. That's basically where I'm at. Too many $300+ monthly TV bills.
     
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  12. Popnvg

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    How much is a Basic Showtime Subscription.Sky is around £40-£50 as a Boxing Fan i have to pay that to get the matches.Sky didnt even show all the best fights,Golvokin v Canelo was On Boxnation.It shouldnt be like that in the UK given how small it is compared to the US.
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    If you have DirecTV, for instance, you pay for the basic service for like $40 or $60. Then each package costs something. They try to drag you in by offering basic package bundles for like $30. If you add Showtime it's another $10 or so. If you add HBO, it's another $15. If you want to watch the NFL channel, it's another fee. IF you want to watch all the NFL games, it's another couple hundred. IF you want to watch the NBA, it's another fee. If you get the basic stuff and a couple movie channnels, you end with a $100 bill a month. Then, after 12 months, they double it. The first 12 months were cheap. The next 12 are double. And you sign a multi-year contract. So if you try to cancel, you still owe all the months left on your deal. And when you're about to cancel, they give you another deal, then that doubles after a period of time. And you have to buy the boxes. Then you pay a monthly fee for the boxes (which I never understood because you already bought them).

    Everyone I know who has DirecTV ends up with close to a $200 bill a month, and that's not buying any PPVs or anything.

    On the ROKU stick, which I bought for like $40, you can download the HBO app. It's $15 a month. But nothing is live. You can't watch live fights until they upload them a few days later. Showtime has an app, too, for about the same money and it shows live broadcasts, but the stream is usually bad. You have to wait until the fight is over and then you can watch the saved fight - and the quality is good.

    Basically, I rarely watch live fights anymore. I have to watch them the next day or find a stream. Or you hope they put them on the channels you can pick up with an antenna and you can watch those live, which is why Al Haymon was a hero for many of us.

    That's why boxing died for casual sports fans in the U.S. And I "want" to watch fights. But I choose to just watch them later because it's just draining.

    Then they hype a fight on PPV, and everyone gets interested, and they charge you $100 for one show. And you get together with a group of guys to watch it.

    You guys will find out.

    The ROKU stick is good. Most of the stuff you watch - movies/tv shows - you watch when you feel like watching it. So that's fine. If you like sports, it's not good. Because sports are really the only thing you need to watch live anymore. And subscription services have those locked up. So you have to go scrounging around for streams.
     
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  14. Kloppbjs

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    Jesus Christ hang in there brothers,Illegal streams exist for a reason.What the hell is directv ?? Do you have to get it ?? UK is Buy a TV License,then get a Sky Sports Subscription and pay the PPV's on top,Simple.Get Boxnation/BT Sport as a add on.All of that adds up to near £180 a month,with the extra £20 for the PPV's so it adds up to £200.
     
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  15. like a boss

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    Joseph Parker's manger David Higgins has met with Eddie Hearn. The meeting went for 3 hours.

    Higgins commented afterwards : "We've had a very productive session, a very constructive meeting. We are heading in the right direction. It's not signed yet, we still have some outstanding issues. But we are getting closer and closer."

    "Effectively this is a co-promotion partnership, worth upwards of $40 million turnover. People wonder why this takes so long but it's such a big one-off event there is so much to look at," Higgins said.
     
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