Parker's resume (simplified)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NEETzschean, Sep 7, 2021.


Will Parker ever be a world champion again?

Poll closed Sep 14, 2021.
  1. Yes

    5.0%
  2. No

    95.0%
  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,561
    5,458
    Jul 29, 2018
    Ortiz hasn't a one off win better than a fringe contender.

    Ruiz, Chisora, Takam and even Hughie all have better resumes than Jennings ( whose best wins if you don't count the controversial win against Perez is Rudenko and Spzilka).
     
    Kiwi Casual likes this.
  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,152
    4,312
    Jul 31, 2021
    Joyce "moved well"? He literally just stood there, flicked the odd jab out and ate punches the entire fight. Wilder would spark Joyce out in 3 rounds.

    As for Dubios, he's simply too slow and inexperienced at this stage. I'd pick Chisora to tear him apart within 8 rounds.

    As for Joyce not losing? Not hard when you're not competing at the top level. Put him in with Whyte for a fun match up.
     
  3. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,834
    1,468
    Feb 23, 2021
    Watch the fight, Joyce is constantly moving around and has underrated footspeed. Wilder is potentially a nightmare stylistic matchup for Joyce but if his chin holds up (and it may well) it would be highly competitive. Seeing as Joyce closed Dubois' left eye fully and made him quit, we can say that he did much more than "flick the occasional jab". Look at Usyk-Chisora and Parker-Chisora; both of these powder punchers hurt a gassed 37 year old Chisora, Usyk in the 7th and Parker from the 11th on. Chisora's stamina and punch resistance has obviously declined so a huge puncher like Dubois would KO him in the mid rounds at this stage. Joyce-Whyte is an even easier fight for Joyce than Joyce-Parker; at least Parker has the chin and engine to survive and lose a UD.
     
    Wizbit1013 likes this.
  4. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,834
    1,468
    Feb 23, 2021
    That's true, Parker is a bully-coward who only shows aggression against horrifically overmatched, sub-Cojanu tier journeymen.
     
    edabomb likes this.
  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

    13,282
    16,892
    Mar 17, 2018
    Simply not true

    Joyce rolled out of the way numerous times during that fight
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,152
    4,312
    Jul 31, 2021
    He also took a lot of flush shots. Remembering to move sometimes doesn't make him a "mover" and it's going to get him severely punished when he fights a proven heavyweight that isn't on retirements door.
     
  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

    13,282
    16,892
    Mar 17, 2018
    Nobody (well not me), has called Joyce a mover

    He clearly has faith in his chin

    But you did say he just stood there, ignoring the good rolling movement he showed on the night

    It was very simple and very effective

    There is a chance he gets in big trouble when he gets the opportunity to step up but its not gonna be Parker thst sparks him
     
    Pepsi Dioxide likes this.
  8. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,152
    4,312
    Jul 31, 2021
    You massively overrate both Joyce and Dubois. Joyce is too slow and stiff, and will get battered the moment he steps up. Dubois you rate based on the fact that he's a good sparring partner. Sparring ain't fighting, and if he can't handle Joyce he's not going far.
     
  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,152
    4,312
    Jul 31, 2021
    I also never said Parker sparks him, or that you claimed him to be a mover if you read my post that you replied to. Parker would comfortably win a UD against Joyce, as would plenty of other fighters.
     
  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

    13,282
    16,892
    Mar 17, 2018
    He might, i doubt it though

    Parker is the definition of average and i might be in the minority but im a admirer of Joyce
    Very underrated imo

    I did read your post, i mean i quoted it so no need to be try and act like im ignorant
    Im not

    I simply think Parkers very average and is going nowhere and Joyce is under rated and will give any HW trouble
     
  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,822
    2,116
    Sep 16, 2020
    At all, Parker is <30 and might improve.
    A lot of HW and CW boxers had seriously improved when they were 30-32 and for sure had beated up their own 26 y.o and 35+ y.o versions with a glance.
     
  12. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,834
    1,468
    Feb 23, 2021
    Lots of things "might" happen but we have to consider probability. Parker has even less drive and will than he did several years ago when he was edging out fights or getting gifts against fringe contenders Takam and Ruiz in his backyard. Now he's been a world champ, made a lot of money, become a father, taken a lot of damage and been dropped several times, he's not going to suddenly find ambition that he lacked in his early-mid 20's. It's not in Parker's innate character: he knows he's not elite, has said Fury's better than him and is happy just to be there.
     
  13. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,834
    1,468
    Feb 23, 2021
    At 23 years old any fighter is going to struggle to handle a de-facto Olympic champion and seasoned pro with heavy hands, a granite chin and an excellent engine. Parker was unable to handle the roughhouse tactics of fringe contender Whyte when Parker was 26/27, which is very good evidence that he's a mediocre fringe contender who is going nowhere. Just a few months ago he gets a gift against 37.5 year old, 10 loss warhorse gatekeeper Chisora and again gets manhandled and roughed up. Then says after the fight he says that he wouldn't have complained if he'd not got the decision!
     
  14. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,152
    4,312
    Jul 31, 2021
    Seasoned pro? Who's he fought? Not that you'll answer that of course. You're also forgetting Parker had Whyte holding on for dear life at the end of round twelve. Parker would win the rematch, which is why Whyte is too scared to fight him.
     
  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,152
    4,312
    Jul 31, 2021
    The way most people go on about Joyce you'd think he was the second coming of Ali. Definitely overrated.

    I only mentioned rereading the post just to clarify a clear misunderstanding. Nothing malicious intended.

    I respect your opinion, I just disagree with it.
     
    Wizbit1013 likes this.