Parry vs. Head movement

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Kevin_Wright, Apr 13, 2010.


  1. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Use both. Guys who are all head movement have poor defense toward the end of a fight especially against body punchers. One of the funniest things I saw on youtube was this dancing crapuria guy getting tagged in the gut by a kick boxer and then suddenly he was unable to move all that well. Massive body trauma does that to a man. As you tire and your body gets beaten on your head movement gets worse and effective parrying can be a life saver.
     
  2. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    Good point. Just yesterday, this guy in my club who is usually hard to hit kept on getting tagged in the last round. He was all spent from slipping 6 rounds worth of punches.

    Lucky for him, the other guy was just as exhausted. It was kind of funny how they both took turns throwing combinations, as if they agreed to do it that way.
     
  3. southpaw jab

    southpaw jab Guest

    You always wanna try to make an incoming punch miss you completely. So, bobbing and weaving is the idea way to go. However, sometimes you can't make a punch miss you completely, in which cae, you will need to parry. You need both.
     
  4. taj-09

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    its pretty simple, when you are not moving your head parry the punches and then other times move your head. You need to do both otherwise you will become predictable.
    i like head movement and footwork better then just parry, once you get better you can learn to roll your shoulders.
     
  5. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Seriously, what the ****?
     
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  6. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Id say it depends largely on you attributes anyway I think.

    Given I have very poor reaction times I tend prefer to keep my hands tight to my face as opposed to using lots of had movements and slipping. Ofcourse I do still keeps my head and body moving as its essential, but place less emphasis on it.
     
  7. I admit I was scattered in the posts :yep. I was trying to say the Parry(deflecting) V Head movement (evading) argument, Parrying is the more useful in a fight.

    A lot of newbians use too much head movement to run away from the attacks instead of working it out like a fighter is meant to. Hence the coach telling them to work on the parrying instead of head movement(thats how i interpreted the OP anyway). You have to learn the skills of having a shell around you aswell as slipping and moving if you want to be a strong fighter.

    As for the disrespect comment, i meant thats a good way to **** off your opponant and coach. Moving your head around too much and not committing.
     
  8. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    I see what you mean by someone slipping too much pissing off people. It happens to me a lot. I get pissed all the time at people slipping too much. Next time they should just stand there and let me hit them. :bbb
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Ideally, you want to make a punch miss entirely as you will then have no ill effects at all. This isn't realistic against a well schooled opponent over 12 rounds. It is incredibly difficult to time shots and evade them for 12 rounds. In amateur, the pace is too frantic and the opponent too fresh.

    As always, you need to be good at everything and use the right thing at the right time.
     
  10. :p I knew that was that coming. I don't know what it's like where you are but here you get booed or lose respect if you evade with no comeback. Too much evasion doesn't show good defense skill or slick game, just a lack of foresight and ticker if you know what i mean.
     
  11. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    Yea, I see that happen a lot too...the guy is in a boxing match but all he does is slip punches. Sometimes you wonder if these guys know that they can't win a boxing match unless they are actually throwing some punches.
     
  12. tmsbry

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    I parry single shots, then use head movement to evade any follow up shots, but its good to mix it up,

    if you parry too much you're open to double jabs & 1,2's, if you bob & weave to much you're open to quick body shots,

    in my opinion the best defense is quick footwork, steping out range then back in with counters & pivot off the right foot back out of range, it's never let me down. Then again I'm a southpaw so what works for me might not work for others
     
  13. Kevin_Wright

    Kevin_Wright King of Awesomeland Full Member

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    I've kind of noticed that it depends on the scenario. Like if I parry the first punch, I'm kind of forced to use head movement to evade the second, IDK.
     
  14. LONGROB

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    It depends on the style and capability of the fighter. Headmovement is much better in my opinion on the whole if you have the athleticism to use it. By making your opponent miss completely you will keep him from finding his range, and often not hitting anything but air will make him tired and a bit more cautious. Coming from my experience, when I can touch something with my jab I can always get started. I have fought guys in the pros and ams that moved their heads well but did not mix punches in with their head movements. These guys were just sitting ducks. Proper head movement from a good counter punch is always superior.
     
  15. ricki

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    Really interesting point of view
    Could u remember that precise youtube vid?