Part 1: Help me Finalize my Top 100 List - Select your Top 4

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by asero, May 2, 2020.


Select your Top 4

This poll will close on May 2, 2030 at 5:29 PM.
  1. Marcel Cerdan

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  2. Flash Elorde

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%
  3. Gennady Golovkin

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  4. Harold Johnson

    9 vote(s)
    52.9%
  5. Sonny Liston

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%
  6. Azumah Nelson

    12 vote(s)
    70.6%
  7. Luis Manuel Rodriguez

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%
  8. Vicente Saldivar

    10 vote(s)
    58.8%
  9. Kostya Tszyu

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  10. Winky Wright

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Select 4 for these boxers. On my draft list, they are ranked between 91st to 125th

    Marcel Cerdan
    Vicente Saldivar
    Luis Manuel Rodriguez
    Gennady Golovkin
    Flash Elorde
    Harold Johnson
    Sonny Liston
    Winky Wright
    Kostya Tszyu
    Azumah Nelson
     
  2. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cerdan, Saldivar and Rodriguez are in my Top 100.
    The other 7 missed my Top 100 with GGG and Elorde in 101st and 102nd spot.
     
  3. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Winky Wright? Meh. Doesn’t belong.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Cerdan doesn't strike me as a top 100 fighter at all; I wouldn't mind hearing your thinking on that? Here's mine -

    1 - None of the guys he beat up on the European and African circuits amounted to much. He wasn't wiping out future contenders or champions. He was just beating guys who weren't that good.

    2 - His second best paper win is Holman Williams. Williams carried two injuries into the fight, had been beaten by Bert Lytell recently and of the sixteen fights remaining him, he would win five.

    3 - His #3 win might be Georgie Abrams. Abrams sat out the war years, made a comeback in '46 to go 4-5-1 including his combat with Cerdan. Abrams meeting with Cerdan was part of a 1-5 run at the end of his career.

    4 - His best win is over Zale and he does look like a great fighter in that fight, left hook particularly impressive. But it was Zale's last ever fight and Cerdan staged zero successful defences.

    Let's say you have him at #60. What about the above makes him greater than every fighter to have ever lived aside from 59? Because that, to me, looks like a career that is sub-Roman Gonzalez almost beyond argument.
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Would you rank Zale, Tiger Flowers, GGG and Gene Fulmer higher than him in P4P list?
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Flowers and GGG certainly.