PARTICIPANTS NEEDED: All-time H2H MIDDLEWEIGHT tournament

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  1. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The heavyweight tournament is still going on, but one of the things I wanted to correct this time around was to give people more time to participate in the seeding round. The next H2H ATG tournament, which will start after the end of the heavyweight tournament, will be for Middleweights.

    I'm going to do this like I did last time. I'd like everybody to post their top 10 middleweights, based on HEAD-to-HEAD badassery, not simply resume. If you think Roy would have been unbeatable had he stayed at middleweight regardless of accomplishments, add him.

    Keep in mind, if you nominate someone who was past their prime when they moved to that weight (i.e. SRR), you can't use the prime version of them in the tournament. It would be the best version of them AT THAT WEIGHT.

    I'm going to be collecting lists until the 19th, so I hope to get more lists than I did for the heavyweight tournament.

    Begin!
     
  2. Windigo

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    Harry Greb
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Jake LaMotta
    Carlos Monzon
    Marvin Hagler
    Bernard Hopkins
    Stanley Ketchel
    Roy Jones Jr.
    Gene Fullmer
    James Toney
     
  3. StGeorge

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    Good list
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    1. Monzon
    2. Hagler
    3. Robinson
    4. Greb
    5. Hopkins
    6. Ketchel
    7. Fullmer
    8. Tiger
    9. LaMotta
    10. Benvenuti
     
  5. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good lists so far. One thing I'm curious about with the middleweight tournament is seeing how the voter camps shape up. In the heavyweight tournament, there was a clear divide between those who believe modern heavyweights are too big and too strong to be troubled by any pre-1990s fighters and those who believe the 70s heavyweights would reign supreme in any era. The size argument has no real merit at middleweight.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Actually it does to an amazing degree.

    Weigh ins used to be the afternoon of a fight.

    Contemporary middleweights and those from the recent decade or two put on much more weight between weigh in and fight night and enter the ring much bigger than fighters in years past used to.
     
  7. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good point. But I don't see a large contingency of people arguing that Jones would beat Hearns because he's bigger. Many of the fighters on the lists posted so far moved up in weight themselves, some as high as heavyweight.

    But that does remind me to add a weight clause to the rules once they're published.
     
  8. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I'd throw Mickey Walker into the mix too.
     
  9. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Sam Langford, Bob Fitzsimmons, Charley Burley, Tony Zale, Marcel Cerdan and Freddie Steele should be in there too.
     
  10. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Although a welterweight and light middle, Tommy Hearns could do some damage if included.
     
  11. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sam Langford was some fighter, maybe the best ever who never won a world title
     
  12. Lopetego

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    You have to include GGG if your tourney is serious
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Well then make up a list, boys!
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    All failing trolls out there, take a lesson from Lopetego... Trolling with Style 101.
     
  15. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I think he easily holds that distinction. He had an unbelievable career - second only to SRR on my all-time list.