PARTICIPANTS NEEDED: All-time H2H MIDDLEWEIGHT tournament

My bad, I thought this was a H2H tourney, didn't know it was about who ranks higher for old geezers and boxing historians

So let's exclude one of the hardest punchers and most accomplished MW amateurs ever and include mostly shrimps from the early past century, even if we've barely seen fight some of them

 

Agree with part 1.

Don't agree with part 2. He's certainly up there somewhere among boxing's best, and a true legend, but I just can't rate him ahead of guys like Ezzard Charles or Archie Moore. Based on who he fought and the results, I just can't as much as I love Langford.

 

Greb
SRR
Monzon
MMH
Freddie Steele
BHop
RJJ
Fulmer
Tiger

 

Okay, if we're picking 10;

Monzon
Greb
Hagler
SRR
Langford
Ketchell
Walker
RJJ
Lamotta
Hopkins

 

none of you have seen Greb fighting ffs

this tourney will be a farce

 

So for the Featherweight tourney, must they include Lomachenko to be taken seriously?

Amateur pedigree means nothing. Zero. It's a different sport with different rules and different weight classes.

In order to rank high on a H2H list, you have to have proven your H2H abilities against a fighter worthy of some respect among the all time Middleweight scene. Matthew Macklin, Gabriel Rosado, Osumana Adama, Nobuhiro Ishida, and Grzegorz Proksa aren't anything notable in this era, let alone compared to eras past.

Sorry, but your argument dies before it even gets started.

You talking about Middleweight legends as "shrimps" = cool story.

You mentioning Golovkin as a top 10 H2H MW at this point in time of 2014 = epic, epic fail.

 

Unless they include Gennady Golovkin!!!!!! Right?!?

 

Hell at MW you could put 16 to 32 fighters in the mix

 

Golovkin doesn't belong anywhere NEAR an all-time H2H MW tournament. All of the other fighters that have been listed here would beat him, and quite easily, too.

 

Harry Greb
Carlos Monzon
Sugar Ray Robinson
Marvin Hagler
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr.
Freddie Steele
Jake LaMotta
Dick Tiger
Stanley Ketchel
Charley Burley (repping for "The Row")
Marcel Cerdan
Tony Zale
Les Darcy
James Toney
Teddy Yaroscz

 

Already did, and left out a bunch of guys that could have warranted inclusion pretty easily. :nod

 

gtfoohwtbs

 

:deal

 

Haven't got these as a pure P4P but just the 10 I think would be great for this tourney, love these by the way Demigawd, banter-enducing stuff:

Roy Jones Jr
Hagler
'Nard
Langford
Ketchel
Sergio Martinez
Eubank Sr.
Sugar Ray Robs
Monzon

Last place to any pick from LaMotta, Burley, Dick Tiger ......pffff....can't put Greb in there (sorry Harry I'm sure you would have held your own and then some)....Fitzsimmons same, can't go in.....uh......fuggit:

Dick Tiger #10.