PARTICIPANTS NEEDED: All-time H2H MIDDLEWEIGHT tournament

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by demigawd, Apr 9, 2014.


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  1. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Greb is the best. You really don't even have to had seen him fight when you know he beat the great white Ali, Gene Tunney. And we got footage of Tunney and how great he was. No doubts there.
     
    elchivito, Apr 9, 2014
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  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wonder if their are old weigh in records of him, I suspect he started at Jr Welterweight, 142 is all I can see, when he was 18 in his 7th fight. It was a loss vs a more seasoned Journeyman named Chip who outweighed him by 14 lbs (possibly was underestimated )
     
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  3. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Any info on him hard to find, but his site says he started his amateur career the same year as his pro. Thats unheard of these days.
     
    elchivito, Apr 9, 2014
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  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Wheres the love for Charley Burley? Graziano? Giardello?
     
    elchivito, Apr 9, 2014
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  5. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    OK, didn't figure them in Seeding order so:

    1)SRR
    2)RJJ
    3)Langford
    4)Hagler
    5)Martinez
    6)Monzon
    7)B Hop
    8)Eubank Sr.
    9)D Tiger
    10)S Ketchel
     
    FartWristedBum, Apr 10, 2014
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  6. DKD

    DKD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok.

    These are the fighters I'd personally like to see, although not necessarily because they are the most deserving.

    See list below.
     
    DKD, Apr 10, 2014
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  7. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you add a list yet?
     
    demigawd, Apr 10, 2014
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  8. DKD

    DKD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah, I now see how this works; forget the order of this list.

    Hagler, Monzon, SRR etc will all get the most nominations so I'm going to flip my list upside down in order that the less likely fighters get higher points. Hope that's ok.

    My list now looks like this:

    1. Roberto Duran
    2. Tony Zale.
    3. Thomas Hearns.
    4. Julian Jackson.
    5. James Toney.
    6. Nigel Benn.
    7. Ray Robinson.
    8. Marvin Hagler.
    9. Carlos Monzon.
    10. Stanley Ketchel.
     
    DKD, Apr 10, 2014
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  9. BoxingNL

    BoxingNL Dutch P4P Champion Full Member

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    I'd put the English 90's heroes in it.
    Chris Eubank Sr off course, Nigel Benn probably.
     
    BoxingNL, Apr 10, 2014
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  10. DKD

    DKD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd like to see Benn in it, too.

    Make a list and put him at the top so he gets more points.
     
    DKD, Apr 10, 2014
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  11. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Although...short shown. The G-Man could really make it intresting if added.
     
    hussleman, Apr 10, 2014
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  12. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1 ray robinson
    2 Sam Langford
    3 Greb
    4 Hagler
    5 Hopkins
    6 Monzon
    7 Roy Jones Jr
    8 Lamotta
    9 Cerdan
    10 Fitzimmons

    But I don't think this is gonna be an accurate tournament because a lot of boxers - greb tiger flowers Fitzimmons langford have little or no footage to look at
     
    I Know Everythi, Apr 10, 2014
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  13. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with that. I'd encourage people to vote based on how they think a fighter would do in a fight, not based simply on their resume. It's difficult to perform a stylistic analysis if you only have fight results and newspaper descriptions to go by, and that creates a risk of creating a fighter who never actually existed.

    I haven't submitted a list this time, since I want to remain neutral, but if I did, I'd limit it to fighters I've seen fight extensively and against a variety of opponents.
     
    demigawd, Apr 10, 2014
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  14. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you submit a list? If not, submit one so G-Man gets his due consideration.
     
    demigawd, Apr 10, 2014
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  15. anton

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    Roy jones
    hagler
    robinson
    toney
    la motta
    Hearns
    hopkins
    nunn
     
    anton, Apr 10, 2014
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