Pascal will never be the same after Hopkins, Dawson wins rematch easily

Dawson is way more talented than Pascal or Hopkins. But, winning is not just about a matter of skills, your spirit is something that can help you pass through the adversity.

If you guys think Pascal look beat down against Hopkins didn't see Dawson against Pascal... This guy looked totally beat down and didn't take at all the blame for the lost, he blame every single things possible in Canada and even fired his trainer.

Dawson seems lost to my opinion... He tought it would be easy like all his previous fight.

I thought Dawson would be a better challenge, but the guy need to grow up before a new chance for the belt...

I have a good feeling for the next fight for Pascal.

 

I don't buy the Pascal is a broken man nonsense. He's not Kelly "alco" Pavlik and he's not Jeff "never has been" Lacy. It's more an American thing, these mental breakdowns.

Pascal is made of stronger stuff. Why the **** should Pascal be broken when he was able to put Bhop down 3 times?? If anything the fight will give him confidence, cos he knows he's got the power to hurt the old man. All he needed was a better strategy and he wins the fight. That is something to work on.

 

good post

 

I disagree here. His strategy is not on the line, his stamina is. Hopkins broke him to the body and all the Pascal's speed advantage disappeared. Hopkins won't go to the canvas three times in a rematch. If Pascal doesn't change things, he gets beat up. I don't say it's impossible, I say he has to do it absolutely, if not he's done. Hopkins could do the same exact thing and win.

 

He pointed that he's not broken, I have to agree with that. Pascal is probably very disapointed or very tired with so many hard fight in a short lap, but as worker like he is. They will fix is problem this year, don't forget Pascal didn't lose stamina against Diaconnu in the rematch and against Branco.

Stress hurts more the stamina sometime than the body shots...

 

Pascal will only get better from the Hopkins fight. The thing about going to school is that you learn new things.

Pavlik went to school, failed, and dropped out. Pascal went to school, passed (barely), and has moved on to the next grade.

 

Dawson would've won the rematch easily whether Pascal had fought Hopkins or not, simply because Dawson is a much better fighter than Pascal but he just had an off-night, for whatever reason.

 

Seems like wishful thinking. The ONLY factor that could mitigate things will be if BHOP shows up old - which can happen anytime, repeatedly, and with ever increasing regularity for an athlete in his mid-40s+. The only other factor - against a different opponent - is that the sport has been in such a long decline there are few quality athletes so perhaps Pascal's attribute set is enough for this era to compensate for his lack of boxing ability.

But, against BHOP, Pascal had 12 rounds and was unable to make a single adjustment. He was just TERRIBLE.

Kessler couldn't adjust and lost the second half of the fight with Calz. In his next real test, he got completely dominated. He had plenty of time to adjust but simply could not.

There is a strong likelihood that his obvious ring limitations means the following:

Kessler = Pascal = Pavlik = J. Taylor = etc.

You can be a decent fighter, you can be a good athlete - but all are equally and unequivocally lacking in exceptional boxing talent.

 

as long as Dawson isnt lazy and works hard he will win this rematch.

 

Basicly, you saying if B-Hop wins I called it but if Pascal wins it's because B-Hop is old!! Bhop is not old today, and it's not 9 months who make a big difference when someone is focus like BHop.

Nice try to keeping away any kind of credit in the rematch for Pascal.

You guys think if the rematch it would like the 13th round(actually Hopkins was tired as well) of the match but I'm sorry for you, Pascal's legs would be fresh like a rose in the first round. Expect Hopkins to get hurts again my friend.

Like Laffie said, Pascal match plan was perfect against him, it's the stamina the issu.

 

I said it right after the first fight. I wasn't even out of the Bell Centre.
Dawson will win the rematch.

I don't think the Hopkins fight did change anything.

 

I agree, with Steward in his corner this will be an easy night.

Double standards around here, Dawson will be fine he was coming on strong late in that fight, not every fighter goes undefeated.

 

This is not about being Nostradamus. There is no prize or financial remuneration for being correct in predicting the result.

The possible scenarios are what they are. Since I've watched BHOP's entire career as it happened and have a couple years on him I can certainly suggest that age has been a factor, will be a factor, and inevitably (likely VERY soon) with force his retirement.

BHOP's optimal physical prime ended with the 90s.

You think that a post commenting on Pascal's performance is a desire for him to fail? Wake up. If he had performed admirably then his performance would speak for itself. With the exception of only a handful of hard punches Jean fought TERRIBLY. That was the worst performance I have seen from him. Have you watched him fight before? With the exception of a handful of hard punches he had nothing to hang his hat on with that performance. HE THREW (and landed) FAR less punches than a 45 YEAR OLD.

Don't argue what can't be argued. I'm not hoping he loses to BHOP. I am doubting he wins UNLESS BHOP shows up old. His level of boxing/fighting talent is FAR FAR below BHOP's. There is no question about this now. If you are young and a novice - go phone up your poppa (or if you still live with him go talk to him) and ask him if the best 28 year old athlete (especially in physical combat) should struggle with ANY 45 year old? Ask him to explain what kind of changes and health issues are starting to arise and become a concern to a middle aged adult. YOU might as well gain some incite into where you are also headed inevitably. Some age better than others - but no one escapes. At a minimum, an athletes moves a little slower, loses his quickness, does not have the same endurance, jumps less well, runs less fast, lifts less weight, etc., - there is a lot of empirical data and medical history to support these contentions.

 

His strategy is totally what lost him that fight. Pascal used a lot of movement, but, wasted movement, that's what drained his stamina. It wasn't the movement that actually helped him, it was his ability in the exchanges close up with Hopkins that helped him score knock downs.

I think if Pascal stood his ground more and fought with aggressive bursts close in, he would get to Hopkins. It's just he burned up too much gas moving around the ring, and that was pointless. Pascal needed some more pressure, fight at a pace that would not suit Hopkins. But cos Pascal stood off far too much, and tried to dart in now and then, Hopkins was able to time him.

The Pascal that fought Froch, with a hard aggressive style, is the one that needs to show up. Don't give Hopkins the time and space to execute his own game.

His stamina became a problem due to the strategy he employed. If he is more economical with his movement but fight aggressively in bursts when in range, he could very well win the fight.

 

Ok I undertsand your point and I respect that, but if you expect Hopkins being old in 9 months your wrong. Because past thirties, if you don't train and you sit on couch all day, the maximum % muscle your going to lose is 1% per year, which is very low and counterable if you train, because you still can gain muscle past the thirties...

You don't get worse because you get old if you keep training, you get worse if you get INJURED because when you're old, your body doesn't recover like when you're young. That's the biggest factor when athetes start to decline. The second one is the willing in my opinion, it's hard for anyone to be on top mentaly for so many years. But so far, it's been one of underestimed Hopkins force.

Mario Lemieux was still one of the best even if took 3 years of retirement past the thirties in pro hockey were there's more players and far more competition.

What killed him? Injuries...

What killed Yserman? Injuries...

What killed Barry bonds past the 40's? Injuries...

I'm sorry but Hopkins as been lucky all through is career at avoiding injuries and last time I check he wasn't injure the last fight.

Expect a top shape Hopkins in his next fight again Pascal and a close fight.