Pascual Perez: Anyone seen his fight with Pone Kingpetch? How do you rate him?

Top 3 as a flyweight, very good fighter ,he ranks on a par with Monzon in his own division,imo.

 

good topic,

im suprised that pone has not been inducted into the hof

 

I got Perez behind Wilde only when rating all-time flyweight. And definite top 50 and likely top 40 all-time P4P. I believe he had over 10 non-title fights durring his reign where both he and the opponent came in at or under the 112lbs limit, meaning they could have been counted as title fights. He had a rematch with Kingpetch, I believe Pone won again, but it may have been a draw (I'm not certain). I have never seen him fight, been trying to find some footage though for a while.

 

Decent pitcher, loved the nose candy, tho. Unfortunately didn't get as many opportunities as Steve Howe (who also didn't mind the nose candy himself). Some may claim race played a significant role in this. I won't weigh in with an opinion although it appears awfully peculiar. It was many moons ago, tho, and it's best to let sleeping dogs lie. Between he and his brother, Melido, the two meanest Jheri Curls I've ever seen on a Dominican. Quote me.

 

Kingpetch was a tad overrated to me actually. Great long range boxer, but didn't fair well against pressure and got too many gifts. Ebihara was better.

 

Don't know if I'm best suited to comment here as I've mainly seen Perez fight near the tail end of his career (about 30 min. of the first Kingpetch fight, 12 min. of the Yaoita rematch, 3 min. of the Yonekura rematch). About the only thing I have on him in his prime is a minute of the Dower fight, from which not much can be gleaned. I am endeavouring to get the first and third Shirai fights and perhaps these will give me a better idea of Perez at his peak.

From what I have seen I can say that Perez loved to hook to the body and head with both hands and didn't have much time for jabs and straight punches. His philosophy was walk forward, throw hooks upstairs and downstairs with rapid speed and power, try to block punches with a tight guard and just outright outgut the opponent down the stretch.

He was incredibly strong, as can be seen from his first fight with Kingpetch in particular. Kingpetch boxed well in that fight, probably better than in any other fight I've seen of his, and was catching Perez with plenty of clean punches. He looked notably bigger than Perez, but Perez was walking through everything and was the general throughout, particularly in the final rounds where he roughed Kingpetch up and had him retreating quickly. (Thought the Kingpetch fight was close by the way, perhaps Kingpetch having the edge with his cleaner shots, and it was one of the few close fights I think were justified - the Ebihara and Harada rematches were NOT justified - and hence perhaps his exclusion from the HOF. Would probably still include him, but I'm not up in arms because he's not in there. But I digress....)

I think to beat Perez you need great stamina, excellent boxing skills and the ability to take an excellent punch. I don't see many flyweights standing toe to toe with him and coming out victorious. Perhaps a Wilde, perhaps a Villa, but not many others. Probably the fighting style best suited to beat him is the slickster type with high a work rate. A Miguel Canto type would do the trick I believe.

 

LMAO. Didn't THAT Pascual Perez get lost on the Atlanta beltway one time when he was the starting pitcher for the evening?

 

Cheers dude.:good

I know RB has the first and third Shirai fights in his collection, and perhaps he can give us a better understanding of what Perez was like in his prime.

 

Yes, I mean overrated in that sense. I used to overrate him particularly before realizing that it was Ebihara that I underrated and Kingpetch that had gotten all the gift decisions(against Ebihara himself and Harada).

I haven't seen the fights, so I can't judge how past his prime Perez was, nor do I know particularly how they played out, or how Perez fought during them. I do know that Harada and Ebihara gave him hell and put beatings on him when they applied the pressure. He just didn't seem to respond well at all.

 

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