Past fighters capable of beating Pacquiao/Mayweather

start putting ur money where ur mouth bc i know u will not do well. trolls don't know anything.

 

I don't think SRR ever had to fight anyone even close to Mayweather's style and speed. I think he would've been very confused, the same way Liston and Patterson were when they encountered a young Ali, who was so fast and moveable and employed it in ways not known to boxing at that time.

Floyd would probably pot-shot Ray for 15 rounds and do his what he does with the elboes and the ducking and Ray would be bedazzled as to what this guy is up to and how this is still considered boxing.

 

Put my money where my mouth is for what!?!?!
What are you trying to straw man me into? I don't even know what you're saying...

Bet you money that the announce team and most of the boxing fans thought floyd lost to castillo in their first fight?
Sure, I'll bet you.

 

match me in credential before questioning me if i know how to score a fight.
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I think both belong in the same category as those fighters mentioned.

It's hard to judge since both Floyd and Pac are naturally sized a weightclass or two below most fighters on the list.

We haven't seen enough of Pac at 147 to judge him against the bigger guys like Hearns, Leonard. If he boxes using his in and out style, I think he is a toss up with Duran and beats Chavez. I see him dropping a decision to Whittaker following him around all night.

People will hate to hear it but Floyd has the potential to beat a shitload of them. I'd take him over Duran and Chavez. Especially Chavez. Both are great pressure fighters, but I can see Floyd pot-shotting, tieing up and sliding out the side door all night.

Leonard I believe is a toss up that can go either way. At 147 Leonard is very big. Leonard was to middleweight what Floyd is to welterweight. Whittaker is 50-50 also. Although I could see Floyd taking up the mantle of aggresor in that one rather than Sweet Pea ,which could sway a decision in Floyd's favour, but it would be very close no doubt.

Robinson, Hearns and prime De La Hoya I would give the best chance to beat Floyd. I think Hearns long jab and size could control the fight from the outside and the energetic De La Hoya that fought SweetPea may outwork him.

Let it be known that I don't believe Floyd to be greater than any of these fighters when it comes to placement in history, but as far as talent and ability goes- I put him in the top 10 boxers ever.

 

None of this means **** to me if you can't even see how floyd lost the first castillo fight.
Your credentials of picking fights is obviously different from analyzing them.

 

Is not a secret that lederman prefer aggressive fighters. but wait, i forgot I AM TALKING TO A TROLL. How many fights u watched, and how many have I????

 

You're dreaming if you think you can convince me floyd won that fight.
Keep talking like you're the authority on boxing analysis and I'll keep laughing.

Keep going all night. I'll let you brag until you get exhausted.

 

I don't need to convince. I know floyd won and apparently so bc he is undefeated. 3 judges saw it floyd and 1 hbo drunk who prefer aggressive fighters lederman thought Floyd lost. suck on that bi*ch.

 

i have no respect for people who runs their mouth and scare to put money where their mouth is. You're opinion is worth s**t in my eyes.

 

for as much as hate u pour on floyd u sure as hell scare to death to bet against him. ur just a *****.

 

Blah blah blah.
Everyone's a piece of **** who gave castillo the nod and the 3 judges in vegas were not corrupt at all.

Unbiased fans know whats up.
You keep your fantasy alive though.

115-111 Castillo.
Argue with someone who is worried you might actually know more than them. I don't even regard you as a boxing fan. Let alone a good judge of a fight.

 

Bet against him in favor of Mosley!?!
Are you ****ing stupid?
A 40 year old 16 month lay off former steroid abuser?
Vs a 32 year old in his prime Mayweather?

Get the **** out of here.

 

yea i'm very bias. i only bet on fighters ALL OVER THE WORLD.

 

posters who just sits in front of the screen on esb b***hing about floyd and doesn't know anything else is living in a fantasy. A fantasy where u suck floyd's **** world.