Past fighters capable of beating Pacquiao/Mayweather

Tommy Hearns would decapitate both of these fools.


Hearns was a tall fighter who actually used hi height to keep fighters at the end of that straight right hammer. And that would spell disaster for a guy like Pac who has openings, and a guy like Floyd who wouldn't get near that motha****a's right hand.

 

Julio Cesar Chavez -
Pac UD:
I think Pac will do a a Taylor except with his footspeed, get out of the way a lot more often and last the 12 rounds to a UD.

Chavez SD Floyd:
Floyd doesnt deal with pressure all too well. Oscar's pressure which he only learned really how to cut the ring off from Roach training camp had Floyd in trouble. Hatton frustrated Floyd a lot. Castillo frustrated Floyd a lot. Chavez iron chin to walk through Floyd shots and land bodypunches all night. Close fight.

Pernel Whittaker UD Both:
I thought Floyd was being outboxed by Judah at start and as usual Judah buckled in the 2nd half of the fight, he also couldnt take Floyd's pressure. I noticed Floyd doesnt really have much of an offense, his offense is counterpunches which Pea wont allow him much of. Pea will also probably force Floyd to come forward with Floyd being the bigger man, exposing Floyd's lack of offense.

Pea just outboxes Pac IMO. Pea is tough enough to handle a few punches that get through and slick enough to win most rounds in the fight.

Meldrick Taylor
PBF SD:
Although taylor presents a lot of problems for Floyd, mainly speed and punches in bunches, most of the punches are quite linear and Floyd would see them coming. Those punches will also allow for counterpunching opportunities. Close fight which I think PBF will take after loosing first couple of rounds and adapting.

Pac TKO Late:
IMO Pac hits pretty hard and will land a lot more than Chavez due to his own speed. If these 2 go to war, I predict Pac winning by TKO after wearing Taylor out with his harder punches which will land in equal amount to Taylor's. If Taylor chooses to box he may very well UD Pac.

Oscar De La Hoya
Oscar SD Floyd:
If their fight was any indication of how the fight would go in Oscar's prime, I think its safe to say Oscar wins this one. He has his own speed, power, and the longer jab.

Pac UD Oscar:
In the same way Oscar had trouble with Pea, he will have trouble with Pac. Its the akwardness he doesnt seem to enjoy too much, specially when he even in his prime was quite robotic with his movements. I think the styles just favour Pac in this fight, people can say that was an old Oscar Pac fought and it was, but it was a glimpse of how the styles look together.

Sugar Ray Leonard
SRL UD Floyd:
Too big, powerful, as fast, too fast combinations to slip and duck and a lot of size. I think Floyd's defense gets him through the 12 rounds but SRL dominates for most of the fight.

SRL KO Pac:
Pac will get caught and get caught too much. His usual tactic of just covering up when hurt wont work either, SRL will just smother and flurry him possibly breaking his defense or causing a TKO.

Thomas Hearns
Hearns KO Floyd:
Judah landed quite a few on Floyd, Hearns will land a lot more because of his output and will land harder.

Hearns KO Pac Duran style:
This will be ugly. Other than a hail mary shot out of nowhere from Pac similar to the one he landed on Hatton to land on Hearns chin, Pac stands virtually no chance in beating Hearns. Hearns destroys Pac.

Roberto Duran SD both:
Both will put up great fights, possibly win a decision on other nights too but overall I think Duran just has them both. I dont think Floyd can handle Durans pressure and Pac will put up a brave fight but be outgunned.

Sugar Ray Robinson
KO both, too much size and power.

 

Floyd Mayweather from 130-147 the only guys I see beating Floyd is Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan, Henry Armstrong and Ray Leonard. I just cant think of who beats him below 140. Whitaker and Armstrong have the best shot

Manny hasnt fought 140 and up for me to say he would beat any all-time greats

 

What about Hearns? You think Mayweather could outbox hearns? SRL couldnt outbox hearns

 

Can't be bothered to write much, but Armstrong, Robinson, Duran, Hearns, Napoles, Basilio, Whitaker, Chavez, Arguello, De La Hoya, Pryor, Leonard, Luis Rodriguez, Griffth, Forrest all have to be considered as potential losses or at least difficult opponents for both guys at 140-147.

 

Manny has beat a better fighter at JWW and a better fighter at WW than Floyd, what you on about?

 

Really? Who?

 

I have Leonard knocking Mayweather out with a bit of ease.

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I think any one of them is capable on any given night.The one i am positive could is def. SRR...in fact he beats everyone on the list to imo

 

Honestly I dont think either has a good shot against the slew of past ATG at welterweight or even the very good ones. The thread would more interesting at 130-140 guys their size. Both guys changed their styles as they moved up in weight.

 

We all know that it wasnt really a split decision ODH barely landed that fight

 

hey dumbass we talkin bout Jr. not Sr.

 

Maybe they werent impressive punches landed but he landed all day and Mayweather eye was swollen at the end of the day. He looked like :!: when it was over.

 

Yeah thats kind of the thing, people bring up all these 147 ATGs and a lot of them would beat them, some with easy but that aint a know of Pac or Floyd cause they are a lot smaller so I dont know why everyone wants to match them up against them just to say oh look they would loose.

 

I think you're right....I'll start a new one