Past Heavyweights Who Beat Usyk

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow, you have to answer twice so I have to answer the same obvious thing three times.
     
  2. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    But your side was completely unfair and dismissive. Also incase I missed it, you did not do the same for Usyks best wins.
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, my side provided the correct context of these victories. Almost all were well past their best, a couple just not all that great in the first place.

    Correct context.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't say it was.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You haven’t done anything.

    You have listed the definition, but then literally not applied it to your own posts.

    Go and look at what you’ve written.


    “A blown up LHW”

    “38 years old”

    “Bruno”


    How is that applying any context, genius?
     
  6. Philosopher

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    I'm not here for an argument. ...
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You don’t even know what the word context means.

    Looking negatively at everything, WITHOUT looking at various factors/circumstances, IS NOT applying context.
     
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  8. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Yep. I envision Usyk frustrating the crap outta Tyson after surviving the early storm and boxing him up late. Tyson had a good chin so I don’t see a stoppage but absolutely see Usyk cracking him over and over with that sneaky straight left.
     
  9. tarrant45

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    How do you correlate that prediction with Usyk struggling with a past prime Chisora who is not even in the same universe as a prime tyson?
     
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  10. Loudon

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    Usyk has nothing for Mike.

    Nothing to stop or deter him from getting on the inside.

    He hasn’t got a great, long jab.

    He hasn’t got the power to have bullied him or stopped him.

    You had to beat Mike down to get him out of there.

    He hasn’t got great inside fighting skills.

    He’s vulnerable to the body and on the inside.

    Mike wouldn’t have given him the time or space to have boxed. He’d have suffocated him on the inside, like Frazier did with Ali.

    Mike was faster than Usyk.

    Smaller, which would have worked in his favour in this specific match up.

    Far more powerful, with one punch knockout power in either hand.

    A pressure fighting swarmer, who was a switch hitter with a great chin.

    Completely wrong for a limited punching craftsman.

    He’d have gone to the body with either hand and pressured him with power punches all night.

    He’d have backed him up and put him into defensive positions, which would have nullified his own offense.

    Just a terrible stylistic match up for Usyk.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Almost astonishing that you left the rest out of what was said about Spinks.

    I am not going to read your other post because I don't need to argue with a spaz who thinks he has to carry on two arguments about the same thing. Tyson's wins, in context, weren't that good, and no amount of butthurt is going to change that. That is all.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    WTF is wrong with you??

    Arguing with a spaz??

    The irony here is STAGGERING.

    Go and read up on the definition of that word.


    Now you came in here and absolutely DID NOT apply any context whatsoever.

    You just looked as negatively as possible.

    You then typed up the definition of the word context, but without actually having applied it yourself.

    Ha!

    WTF?

    Do you know how ridiculous that is??


    Yes, we know that Larry was 38.

    However:

    Mike gave up huge size.

    He was only 22.

    He was the ONLY guy to ever stop Larry, in a 75 fight, 20 year career.

    He did it really early.

    Larry was still world class.

    Larry went on and beat Ray Mercer 4 years later.


    That is applying context.


    Go and sort yourself out.
     
  13. tarrant45

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    Maybe they weren't but you did not make a credible argument for that in the slightest. Dismissing most of his opponents just because they were allegedly 'drug addicts' is just trolling.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't have to "make and argument," I presented the facts. No one who knows anything about the division at the time disputes anything that was said.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So now you are down to Larry Holmes>

    Yeah, Mercer is a guy who was beaten by Jesse Ferguson. Beating him was not some triumph. Nothing is going to turn 38 year old Holmes into something he wasn't.