Past Heavyweights Who Beat Usyk

Evander in his prime absolutely had the stamina to stay with Usyk. And he’d have fought him aggressively on the inside.

Ali would never have employed the rope a dope tactics. He only used that specifically for George, as he no longer had the legs and the stamina to try to have outboxed him at that stage of his career.

 

Usyk hasn’t got the strength or power to have forced Mike backwards.

 

You can believe whatever you want.

I’m just talking from a purely logical standpoint, based purely on how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically.

What you have written is simply unrealistic based on what we know of each fighter.


I am not in any way underestimating Usyk.

He is my favourite fighter, who I’ve constantly referred to as being a genius.


Usyk is not faster than Mike.

His technical skills wouldn’t have played a part in the fight, simply because he wouldn’t have had the time or the space needed in order to have utilised them.

He’d have been suffocated on the inside with power and pressure, like Ali was against Frazier.

And Usyk couldn’t have done anything about it, simply because he doesn’t have the strength and power to have stopped or deterred Mike from having got on the inside.

It’s very simple.


Again, it’s not about who the best is.

Who ranks higher.

Who had the higher skill set.


It’s styles.


Iran Barkley beat Thomas Hearns twice.

Joe Frazier gave Ali hell in 3 fights.

Floyd Mayweather embarrassed Canelo in a masterclass in 2013, before barely beating Marcos Maidana, less than a year later. Who was better between Canelo and Maidana? We both know the answer.


Again, styles.


Usyk wouldn’t have decisioned Mike.

Again, he doesn’t posses the attributes to have kept Mike off of him.

Usyk is not unbeatable.

Nobody is.

It just takes the right style.

Usyk barely beat Breidis in his absolute prime, at CW.

Go and watch the fight.


Mike would have been a terrible stylistic match up for him.

 

And this is slowly starting to happen with Usyk’s fan base.

 

Hang on a sec, Holyfield has a terrible record vs Southpaws.. He aint beating Usyk

 

Ibragimov, Byrd, Moorer.

Usyk is a bad match up for Holyfield.

 

The significant fights were against Moorer.

I don’t put too much emphasis on those from the 00’s.

Usyk absolutely could have beaten Evander.

But Evander would have had a realistic chance too. Especially if he could have made it a tough, inside fight.

 

Holyfield battered Moorer in rematch didn't he? First fight he was way off the pace, in heart failure from memory?

 

Thanks

I also think boxing trainers were better in the past. Robert Garcia, Eddy Reynoso, Shane McGuigan, Ben Davidson, Boom McIntrye don't knew more about boxing and aren't more inspirational than Cus D'amato, Charlie Goldman, Angelo Dundee, Eddie Futch, Jack Blackburn, Manny Steward etc

I reckon these old school trainers took a lot of their secrets to the grave. Inside fighting is starting to become a lost art. That's why we see a lot more clinching because people don't know what to do. Neither Usyk or Fury can fight on the inside, like a lotta modern fighters everything has to be Olympic mid-range style.

Fighters, back in the day, had to deal with much harder living conditions. It was rare that fighters became rich and pampered so early in their careers. Their hunger to win was real. Back in the day fighters used to fight on the streets, the docks, anywhere there were events that held those fights.

PROPER HARD GUYS, they were MEN

And you saw that with Fury, the thought of him gassing and gettin KO-ed was greater than him Ko-ing Usyk. That's why, instead of him fighting to kill Usyk. He fought like a guy who was trying to fiddle his way through and maybe the judges will be kind to him this time.

My great-grandfather used to work the docks in Britain n the 1920's. Bk then, the bags weight in ships weighted 100 kg or 200 lbs.
That was the normal weight.

And people like my g.father, could carry them all day long. And compared to modern men he was a tinny guy. Today, bags can be no heavier then 25 kg,

Our pansy Millennial boxers born in the last 40 yrs would be trampled to death by their predecessors.