paul appleby v stephen ormand for the celtic title

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by apps1, Jan 25, 2012.


  1. The Batkilt

    The Batkilt Guest

    Bingo. It's how the likes of Matthew Macklin and Frankie Gavin were eligible to win Irish titles.
     
  2. Scottishbox10

    Scottishbox10 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,083
    16
    Nov 5, 2010
    That Appelby Walsh fight was brutal .This will probably be a war as well .Well happy with this one the cards looking quality .Hopefully Simpson's fights as good .Willy Casey would be quality man .
     
  3. eggboxer

    eggboxer Guest

    yeah both them lads have parents born in ireland
     
  4. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

    15,873
    13
    Oct 13, 2007
    dont think thats right
     
  5. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

    15,873
    13
    Oct 13, 2007
    wrong again
     
  6. The Batkilt

    The Batkilt Guest

    Well why were they eligible to fight for Irish titles then? Macklin was born and raised in England, Frankie was born and raised in England too. Both come from Irish stock - I always assumed that was why they were able to contest Irish titles. I assumed that as I thought you'd need more than just a license out of Ireland.
     
  7. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

    21,647
    4
    Oct 3, 2011
    Ormond to win this IMO, Stoppage around 7-8.
     
  8. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,853
    5
    Oct 4, 2008
    I think both Macklins parents are both born n raised in ireland

    not sure about gavin


    i think slap is questioning this because the Celtic title is for the northern irish, scots, welsh whilst ormond is from the republic
     
  9. The Batkilt

    The Batkilt Guest

    Ah, fair enough. Does Ormond have Northern heritage though? If he had one parent from North of the border would that allow him to contest the title?

    I don't care if the title's on the line or not mind, Appleby/Ormond should be a fun little dust up and I'll be glad to be there for it!
     
  10. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

    21,194
    2
    Jan 1, 2010
    The Celtic title is a BBBofC title. The Irish is by the IBA. Completely different things.
     
  11. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

    15,873
    13
    Oct 13, 2007
    The eligibility criteria to fight for a Irish title is the same as it is for the British title. That is, the fighter must prove that they qualify for Irish/British citizenship.

    As both Macklin and Gavin's parents are all Irish they qualify for Irish citizenship and in fact Macklin carries an Irish passport.

    You dont actually have to be a British citizen to fight for a British title, you just have to prove that you qualify for British citizenship. E.g. Fighters from NI only have to show a birth cert that you were born in NI.

    The Celtic title is effective an area title much like the Central, Scottish, Southern etc.

    My understanding is that you either have to be born or permanently resident in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland to fight for the title.
     
  12. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

    15,873
    13
    Oct 13, 2007
    BUI, but yeah.
     
  13. lirva

    lirva Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,335
    97
    Jul 7, 2010
    Ormond is 100% Irish from the republic of ireland
     
  14. The Batkilt

    The Batkilt Guest

    Thanks for clearing that up.