Paul Willaims is the best P4P

Selective memory I see!:rofl

 

How do you know Floyd wouldn't take those risks? He has the timing and speed to do so, the footwork, the defense to cover himsellf from getting hit as he goes in, the lateral movement on the outside to stay away, the understanding of range to stop Paul from landing, and the timing as I said earlier and ability to get in-range, land and get out and move, stick and move that's all it is, and Floyd has the ability to do that no doubt. In fact, I think we are going to see a more aggressive Floyd against JMM, the Floyd from his 130 days.

He doesn't have to drop Paul. He's not going to knock him out I know that, and this fight won't be won on KD's - because neither fighter is hitting the canvas. Williams has fantastic stamina yes, but Floyd has never shown a tendency to blow out either, even if he doesn't work as hard. This guy is in the gym 24/7. He's always in shape. He's been at the top of his game for years and years and he has proven 12 rounds stamina.

The thing that worry Floyd mainly are in my opinion:

#1 - A sharp, crisp jab - Shown against DLH - Williams has shown a tendency at times to be a bit lazy with his, and he'll have to stick it from range, Floyd will see it coming and parry it every time. Nevertheless, I'm including this as a proviso, I don't think the jab will be THAT big a deal, as I think his game-plan in the early stages of the Oscar fight hurt him more than Oscar's jab did.

#2 - The southpaw stance - Shown against Judah in the early stages - He is capable of adapting to this definately, as he did against Judah. But he does tend to drop some early rounds. Especially quick southpaws like Judah. He got caught with straight lefts because he couldn't shoulder roll them from the orthodox stance like he does with straight rights as they are coming from the opposite side. Obviously, Williams isn't a southpaw, so we can't tick this box right here. Nor is he THAT quick.

#3 - Effective pressure - Shown at times in the first Castillo fight - Now to pressure effective, a fight in my opinion can't be throwing constantly like Williams does, and needs to cut off the ring better, like Castillo. Also, Paul has an outstanding reach, if he pressures Floyd, he has to get up inside to close the gap. Floyd's greater handspeed and shorter punches will win him the inside dual I have no doubt. Paul's arms are ****ing long, it will be tough for him to get combinations of quickly on the inside.

 

Your memory serves you halfway at best. Right after the fight, Quintana had nothing t say, and Paul said he would give him a rematch anyway. Months later he got the courage to say he wanted another fight. By that time, Williams had begun signing other fighters.


And if you're stupid enough to think Williams is the same fighter, fighting at the same level as when he was beaten by Quintana, then you should sign off. Now.

 

You can't be serious right hud? Come on man!

 

that would be impressive if he was fighting some good oposition but he hasnt.

 

Fair enough.

But you never heard me say anything about Marg being a bum. (Not that you were referring to me.) I have always thought he and Williams were the two best WW's until Shane tapped that ass.

 

Cotto deserves to be ahead of him. His win over Mosley is far better than anything on Dawson's resume, and don't try and tell me otherwise. He has a much more sustained resume full of more solid B/B+ level fighters, like Judah, Malignaggi, Torres etc.

 

Williams is # 5 based more on ability and the amount he's ducked than on resume

And thats Ok

You can see how great he is over defferent weights

And he'll never get the resume if he's always getting ducked

So you only have 2 criteria to rate him on

#5 is absolutely right, The only guys above him are the true elites

 

thats right, williams had to box his way to a stupid UD while sugar man raped his ass.

 

you just described paul williams except you left out the fact that he has an 82 inch reach, 6 ft 3, & throws 1000 punches a fight....

 

No I would love to see a list of European fighters that have a better resume then either Williams or Dawson. ACTIVE fighters. I think that only the Klits could even be mentioned and I dont think that they do based on the Heavyweights suck. I just cant think of any, maybe you can point one out that would change my mind.

 

And if I agreed with you, which I dont that would push him down one spot...Keep going:good

 

First fight wasn't even close????? Then what the **** was the remacth a SD win?:yep You lost all credibility whit that statement. Log off please.

 

Paul Williams resume is not exactly glowing with Elite fighters in their prime. He has got well known names but his biggest win over Winky is tainted by the fact he was shot.

1. Pac
2. JMM
3. FMJ
4. BHOP
5. Mosley
6. Wonjonkam
7. Vazquez
8. Paul Williams
9. M. Cotto
10. Dawson

 

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DANISH:Mikkel Kessler: yes the loss to calzaghe is better then ANYONE of Pwills resume
ROMANIAN: LUCIA BUTE
UK: CARL FROCH: His win over Jtaylor is also better then ANYONE on PW resume
ARMENIA/GERMANY: ARTHUR ABRAHAM
ARMENIA/GERMANY: KHOREN GEVOR
GERMANY: SEBASTIAN SYLVESTER
SPAIN:JAVIER CASTILEJO
FINLAND:AMIN ASKIKAIEN
UKRAINE: SERGEI DZINDZURIK
SPAIN: SERGIO MARTINEZ
These guys are some off the top of head. I AM NOT SAYING THEY BEAT PAUL but most on this list HAVE a resume that is better or equal to pauls.