Paul Williams is not as talented as you guys give him credit for.

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  1. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you always post gah bage like this :lol:
     
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  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    But you discredit those who beat on your favourite fighter. You're a fool.
     
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  3. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, I was just speaking in general terms. I didn't have anyone particular in mind. However, Selfkill is not someone I have noticed regularly putting down pro boxers.
     
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  4. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you're slowly becoming the worst poster on ESB. Infact, you probably already are. you're nothing but a biased POS who does nothing but add more and more unneeded bull**** to this forum.

    Die of aids.
     
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  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    And Hopkins started at LHW...fought at SMW and MW...then moved to LHW and even contemplated moving to HW.

    Does that make Hopkins a natural LHW?

    Again, there are literally hundreds of examples of fighters fighting above or below where they started or spent a good chunk of their careers. And like I said at the beginning...if you can show the dedication to make weight comfortably and compete (not make 160 and come into the ring at 175...THAT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION...but that is not the case in this situation), then that is your weight.
     
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  6. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    oh thanks for calling me names :lol:

    I admitted that PW beat MArgo and even gave him props for it.
     
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  7. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree that fighters change weight classes.. But PW wasnt a top JM OR MW OR SMW..he only became a top fighter when he dropped down to WW..where he is the biggest guy in the whole division. that is why Im saying he isnt as talented as he gets credit for....
     
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  8. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i certainly dont call people ****** from behind a key board...E gangsta
     
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  9. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    And again, Hopkins LOST at LHW...then moved down to MW (where he was taller than many of his opponents) where he became one of the best ever at 160.

    You read what I feel is Williams strengths and weaknesses...he has both. But his ability to make weight only shows a strength...his dedication and training regime.

    I guess the best example of the point Im trying to make is Thomas Hearns. Same size essentially as Williams...he was the biggest guy in the ring EVERY NIGHT at WW (and above until you get to LHW)...yet his ability to train and get to WW is amazing when you consider his size and the fact that he also, much like Williams came into the ring at or BELOW the WW limit on most occasions.

    Again, dedication is not a weakness nor does it show a lack of talent.
     
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  10. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl

    It took that skinny mother****er two fights to beat quintana. :hi:
     
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  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Williams already easily beat Margarito nearly sweeping the first half of the fight.
     
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  12. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    :patsch

    Easily...sweeping the first half of the fight :rofl Problem is there is 2 halves...
     
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  13. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this was a good post and I agree with it...

    Althought Hopkins wasnt bigger then his opponents at MW IMO..

    he is 6'1 and he didnt have almost a career's worth of fights above MW..he had a few, but also came out of prison to go go pro and didnt have the proper weight training in the begining IMO..

    Williams only last 7-8 fights have been WW.. Hell Pavlik 7-8 fights ago wasnt even a top MW..my point is Williams dropped weight divisions and could very well be facing the Miranda, Taylors, Pavliks,, instead he is trading wins and losses with WW's..:deal

    YOU did Have A very good post tho and didnt just resort to calling me a hater or ******, thanks :good
     
    yodaddyboxing, Sep 3, 2008
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  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I agree, tell that to Margarito who lost the fight. :dance
     
    Rico Spadafora, Sep 3, 2008
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  15. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you act like losing a close fight to a SMW is a bad thing... especialy when he wouldnt grant you a rematch ..hmmmmm
     
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