Paul Williams' loss to Carlos Quintana...a blessing in disguise?

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it may be. Williams seem ts to be a different kind of animal since the loss. A superior fighter, I think. Stopping Quintana in one round is pretty amazing and then moving up 13lbs to beat another guy quickly, is also a great achievement. I think he has faith in his power now and that's a good thing for him.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Sort of. Yes because it has taught him to focus and that he isn't untouchable but no because a lot of people use it against him saying he got dominated for 12 rounds. Which is a lie, it was 7-5 / 8-4 fight. Thats not a domination.
     
  3. Guido

    Guido ESB Addict Full Member

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    I do think it smartened him up a bit, and showed him he still needs to dedicate himself to improving his technique. He's show way more power and more focus is the last couple fights, but given that they were only a round each who can really know? I'd like to think it's 'cause he's using better leverage on his punches, and he's picked up a bit more game.
     
  4. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    He got a lesson and was hit by left hands over and over, and he came into the rematch getting tagged immediately by the same shots, only.. he slugged out and caught Quintana.


    Wait till he fights a bigger puncher.
     
  5. heart

    heart Active Member Full Member

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    i think he helped him. in the quintana fight he didn't seem focused at all, and there wasn't meaning in his punches. since then he seems to be a lot more tentative. but then again i'm judging that on less than 2 rounds
     
  6. The Prophet

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    Unless its Paul Williams beating Antonio Margarito by those scores, then it is domination, owning, all that stuff.:gsg
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i think it helped him realize how fast it can all be gone
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    A humbling loss is almost always good. As long as the fight wasn't beaten out.
     
  9. nightmare nick

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    If it wasn't for that loss I don't think he would have to fight Phillips this weekend.
     
  10. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    great avy
     
  11. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It killed all his momentum after the Margarito fight. He was on top of the world and 9/10 experts picked him to not only win but to destroy Quintana and sucessfully defend his belt for the FIRST time. As it stands now, he has never successfully defended a world title as champion.

    The loss for Margo was indeed a blessing in disguise because it meant getting rid of that WBO belt which prevented him from being ranked by other organizations for the longest time. Once he got rid of it he picked up two major world titles against Cintron and then Cotto and became a top 6 P4P fighter.
     
  12. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it helped and hurt Williams. Any loss has some degree of damage with it because your 0 is now gone. At the same time he learned from it and seems to be a smarter fighter becasue of it. I think it has its positives and negatives. Only time will tell, but I see him being a prime time player for years to come.
     
  13. The Prophet

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    If it wasn't for that loss, he wouldn't need to fight at all. We wouldn't even need to discuss this. He'd just be considered the greatest boxer from 147-175. He'd be able to retire on top and be considered the greatest to ever lace them up, period, end of discussion. Why would he ever need to fight anyone? I mean isn't it already obvious?:thumbsup
     
  14. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    he KO'd Quintana after having 12 previous rounds to figure out his style

    theres nothing impressive about that to me......

    then KO'd some C class bum at middleweight, theres nothing impressive about that to me