Paul Williams vs Antonio Margarito Reviewed - How did you have it ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Solid Chin, Jan 13, 2009.


  1. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    I just finished watching this fight and it's my 8th or 9th time watching the fight over and I decided to score it this time...

    I noticed that most of the punches was blocked by Margarito. He parried most of them with his gloves.

    I have scored it the way I've scored it based on effective punches landed.
    Not on shots thrown and blocked.

    I must say after watching this for the 8th time, there definetly needs to be a rematch. It was a good fight

    Here is what I got.

    Round 1 - Williams
    Round 2 - Williams
    Round 3 - Williams
    Round 4 - Even Round
    Round 5 - Margarito
    Round 6 - Even Round
    Round 7 - Margarito
    Round 8 - Margarito
    Round 9 - Williams
    Round 10 - Margarito
    Round 11 - Margarito
    Round 12 - Williams

    What I picked up from this fight is that this was not a schooling as some would suggest, the amount of punches thrown is what won the fight.

    Margarito started slow but I think it was due to Williams starting fast and not allowing Margarito to get his punches off.

    I think that in a rematch Margarito would need to come in much sharper and start faster but I was very impressed with Margarito's bodyshots because they was hurting Williams but all credit to Williams, he did what he had to do to win the fight.

    A rematch is a must see because in my opinion Margarito did look like he was the stronger coming down the stretch but it was the 1st 3 rounds that made this fight a Paul Williams fight.

    Paul Williams called out Cotto and Mayweather in the post fight press conferences and the 1st thing that came to mind is I hope this guy can come back to 147 and rematch Margarito and also to push for fights with the other 2 guys I just mentioned

    I would like to see

    Paul Williams vs Floyd Mayweather
    or
    Paul Williams vs Miguel Cotto
    or
    Floyd Mayweather vs Antonio Margarito
    or
    Floyd Mayweather vs Miguel Cotto

    Any other fights are just a bonus but these are the top dog match ups in my opinion in the division but I think that is just wishful thinking because they will probably never happen...
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I had Williams winning by UD, it was close yet a clear victory for Williams.

    I wouldn't really bother with Mayweather vs Cotto since Cotto got KTFO in his last fight and needs to redeem his self by avenging the loss to be worthy as a challenger. Margarito might want to avenge a loss too, five losses and zero avenged or attempted to avenge and everyone seems to be happy about it.
     
  3. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    Im sure we have done this before Scar...

    3 of 5 losses he had when he was between the age of 15 to 18 the other 2, one was to Santos which in the rematch ended up in headclashes like the 1st fight so as I've said to you time and time again, there is no point in rematching Santos that is old news, dead and buried.

    The only man he needs to rematch is Williams which is what I said above.
    You need to get over the other 4 losses because they are all irrelevant when you actually think about it from a common sense standpoint.

    Would you avenge losses you had when you was 15-18 up and coming and still learning ???????????

    Come on bruv, if your going to keep bringing that up then go into it further and make a proper case to why he needs to avenge the 3 losses whilst he was still a teenager learning his trade and also why he needs to rematch Santos again, it wouldn't make sense and people wouldn't want to see another headbutt fest...

    Those 3 losses from 15-18 those guys must be old men by now aswell so your case fails...
    Victor Lozoya
    Larry Dixon
    Rodney Jones

    Dont make me laugh bruv, no one wants to see him fight those men now, those men are probably not even active and if they are no one would want to see those fights, only your ass would.

    Get over it
     
  4. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I know he was 2 years old when he had his first three losses, sadly you're forgetting that one of the guys that beat him was active all the way to 2007 but it doesn't matter because he was 2 years old? :huh

    Floyd Mayweather gets a close fight with Castillo then immediately gives him a rematch and he's STILL criticized by a few jealous fat drunken cabdriving Mexicans for having a close fight.

    Margarito has 5 losses and it's perfectly fine, sure.

    It is NEVER old news to rematch a guy that beat you, if you know boxing you will know that. For someone that claims he's there for pride and gladiator status rather than make money to not avenge losses is preposterous.

    The only reason it's a headbutt-fest is because of their styles, I don't know if you're a newbie in boxing but whenever a southpaw runs into an orthodox fighter headbutts occur. Especially when you have an orthodox fighter(Margarito) charging in with his head wide open in reckless fashion most of the time.
     
  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah people went overboard with this fight...Williams won some very clear rounds early, Marga won some very clear rounds later and they shared some in the middle.

    I had Williams like 7-5 the first and only time I scored it...I thought he certainly deserved the nod but the fight most definitely warranted a rematch all things considered.

    I dont think Williams particularly exposed anything we already didnt know about Tony. At some point you take away his size advantage, match his workrate and have better skills then him (which isnt that hard to do) his options are then very limited. Even still he only just lost that fight.
     
  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I had it like this:
    Round 1-Williams clearly
    Round 2-Williams clearly
    Round 3-Williams close
    Round 4-Williams clearly
    Round 5-Williams close
    Round 6-Margarito close
    Round 7-Margarito clearly
    Round 8-Margarito close
    Round 9-Williams close
    Round 10-Margarito clearly
    Round 11-Margarito clearly
    Round 12-Williams clearly
    Total:115-113 Williams but could have gone either way,I thought Williams won.
     
  7. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Williams 7-5

    A fight of two halves, but Williams won the 1st wider than Margo won the second.
     
  8. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    I know he was 2 years old when he had his first three losses, sadly you're forgetting that one of the guys that beat him was active all the way to 2007 but it doesn't matter because he was 2 years old? :huh

    Floyd Mayweather gets a close fight with Castillo then immediately gives him a rematch and he's STILL criticized by a few jealous fat drunken cabdriving Mexicans for having a close fight.

    Margarito has 5 losses and it's perfectly fine, sure.
    So what exactly are you saying, that Hopkins should be put in the same bracket for not avenging his 1st loss of his professional career ?

    It is NEVER old news to rematch a guy that beat you, if you know boxing you will know that. For someone that claims he's there for pride and gladiator status rather than make money to not avenge losses is preposterous.
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    Your missing the point, you might of wanted to see him rematch the active fighter but no one else did and to make a fight happen it has to sell tickets, if no one is interested in seeing it then its not going to happen. You of all people should know that and as I said you only made a case for one so your point has failed bro, you need to let this one go because you cant give any solid answers to why he needs to rematch guys who beat him whilst he was still learning his trade. If you want to look at it like that then there are tons of fighters who have done the same thing. Just because your a floydamaniac, dont use Castillo as some sort of comparison, the reason why he took that rematch is because he Needed to prove to the people that he could win more decisively 2nd time around because people had doubts to him winning that fight in the 1st place.

    The only reason it's a headbutt-fest is because of their styles, I don't know if you're a newbie in boxing but whenever a southpaw runs into an orthodox fighter headbutts occur. Especially when you have an orthodox fighter(Margarito) charging in with his head wide open in reckless fashion most of the time.

    Bro, your a joker, I am a southpaw so I should know first hand, no offence mate but im not exactly a newbie to boxing, I might be new on here but I been boxing for years.

    And you said it right there, that is why there is no need for a rematch, you just answered your own question.

    The only loss he needs to worry about avenging is Paul Williams and thats it, all the others are not even relevant to right now.
     
  9. imp4pdabest

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    If anyone says it was a draw or a robbery, you need to watch this fight again.
     
  10. imp4pdabest

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    I cant see how anyone could score it for AM.
     
  11. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    had williams by 2...

    but pw's called out floyd cotto & marg forever....


    hell probably never get any of those fights.. cept maybe a marg rematch if hes lucky
     
  12. imp4pdabest

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    I had it 8-4 for PW.
    But PBF is retired, AM & Cotto are the only ones left. Only way he's getting AM is if he moves down when AM is ready or if AM cant make weight anymore. Cotto will most likely never fight above 147 unless he's fighting when he's like 33, so he'll have to move down if he wants Cotto.
     
  13. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    williams beat margo fairly. close but clear decision. no controversy
     
  14. D.Will

    D.Will Active Member Full Member

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    i had it for williams too

    as a matter of fact i just watched the fight yesterday and i had a lot of respect for marg until the end of the fight. he was cryin and ****.

    anyway he's still a very good fighter and he was taggin my boy Will in that 11th round. marg went crazy but P.Will stood his damn ground and came out in the 12th like he did in the 1st. crazy ****. and thats why he's my favorite fighter

    P.Will for pres
     
  15. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    No doubts. I had Williams by UD.