Paul williams

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by freddy-wak, Apr 21, 2009.


  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The thing is Williams is alot smarter fighter than you and others will give him credit for. He'll beat those guys to the punch landing combos from all angles tie up those guys so they can't get off then unleash his 6 and 7 shot combos and reapeat and he's strong enough and has enough power to get their respect, he can do this all night.:deal There's little these two can do about it. They don't have the counter-punching, footwork or defense to stop it.
     
  2. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    well, we'll just have to wait and see then...
    i really disagree with you, but boxing aint always about who can do what better.....a lot of times the lesser skilled guy can easily win with pure determination and will.....and to tell you the truth, paul aint that smart in the ring, if he was, he would just box on the outside all the time....but he engages all the ****en time....sometimes way too much, which is great for us to see, but it is also why i think they can beat him
     
  3. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yo its irrelevant to talk about angulo or those guys now


    shane - bhop - cotto and guys like that are the only type of fighters on pw's radar
     
  4. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why?
    They're at the very top of the 154lbs division, young and strong guys who are looking to snatch a title.
     
  5. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    exactly...

    walk with me's dream is for paul to fight mosley, bhop, oscar, floyd, pavlik and beat'em all


    it dont work that way homie, he'll be lucky to get one mega fight soon....believe me :good
     
  6. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    paul wants fighters on his resume that build him notoriety or get him $$

    fighting angulo does neither... kirkland looks better down the line.. beating dzdinruik is just beating a unknown euro fighter... if he wins he was over rated all along ... if he loses he is over rated all along.. which is a waste of time... etc etc

    just listen to me... im as close to his manager as your going to get

    thats what they (we) want obviously but im saying... a kirkland/angulo fight is not coming soon .... we trying to get that bhop fight
     
  7. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dzinziruk defended his WBO belt five times, he's obviously a champion worth noticing.
    Paul himself moaned and bitched (excuse my language) about nobody coming to see him when he had a title, what about him coming to see Dzinziruk when Dzin has a title in Pauls current division? Paul is not a title holder.. I don't see whats so hard about coming to see Sergiy?

    Sergiy also called your boy out, which makes it that much more intriguing.

    If you think Paul can cakewalk between divisions without holding a belt, calling out and getting fights with the likes of Mosley and B-Hops, you're dreaming buddy.
     
  8. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you and me know that dzinziruk is a good fighter... **** maybe even he is a great fighter for all i know.... but the point is he beat a bunch of guys who nobody is really familiar with ..... so lets say paul fought him and tko'd him in 7 ... it would go down on the record as paul beating some random euro guy... and if paul happens to lose... he was just some over rated fighter all along

    i dont even know why your bringing up the belts as if they are important.. i mean look at the list of current title holders

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Boxing_Association
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Boxing_Council
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Federation
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Organization

    its a big ass joke... nobody cares about these belts now... its all about name power... everyone recognizes who the big dogs are and thats who you go after...
     
  9. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    So then your boy blatantly avoided a title holder in the 154lbs division because the fight does not make sense financially for him.
    Then he should seriously stop promoting himself as the most avoided fighter in the world, we all know the 154lbs division is eager to come see him, Dzinziruk said so himself!

    Look, Paul is a great talent.. but hes not avoided.
     
  10. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i never said he is avoided.... i have said he got blackballed from 147 ... but not in general... the only guy who really says that is his promoter... im forgetting his name right now... but thats his claim.. hes the only one .. not even paul really says it... he always talks about how he couldnt fight at 147 so he had to fight his way out....

    im sure you have never saw this but paul said he woudl go to germany (or whever sergei is from and fight him on his home territory) they have both said they woudl fight each other.... its just not in pauls best interest right now so it wont happen.... the only person who wants to see williams vs dzdinurik are boxing forum users.... the rest of the world wants to see williams vs shane - williams vs cotto - williams vs pavlik - williams vs aa - williams vs bhop..
     
  11. Uncle Oden

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    Well pretty much every single one of those fights you listed is unlikely to happen this year. Shane appears willing to wait for Cotto and no doubt Arum would match up Cotto with Pac or Mosley before Williams. Pavlik and AA are on a collision course.

    Dzindiruk is willing to fight Americans, even in America. If Kirkland's troubles persist, that opens the door. There aren't really any other viable options at this point and considering they both hold WBO titles at 154, that fight would need to be made or otherwise he'll be taking a step back no matter who else he fights next.
     
  12. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You people find cling and grasp at every possible reason to discount Paul Williams.

    I have never seen a fighter who every movement gets picked apart by so many "experts" who don't know a ****in thing about him.

    Pathetic really.

    ****in pathetic.
     
  13. pipe wrenched

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    Interesting point, and he's got the length so far to keep the WW's and smaller guys well at bay, and though he might get blasted to the body more by the MW's...I thought he looked physically a hell of a lot better and strong at 160, than skeletor at 147.:yep

    IMO, within a year or so, a fight between PW and Pavlik is gonna be the BIG DADDY.:deal
     
  14. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I give PW MAD respect, especially how good he looked kickin' Winky's ass. AND it's not like Winky was shot or no ****, Paul just busted his ass.

    BUT, if you want to see how the shitz in your post really feels, try being a Pavlik Fan for a day or two. :deal
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Co-Sign:deal