Paulie Malignaggi vs Keith Thurman

For real. Kid is a major letdown. Been hearing the name for years, somehow never synced up that I was able to catch one of his few-and-far-between TV appearances, supposed to be this total monster and eventual threat to storm up the pound for pound lists...

Then he takes a "step up" - to, let's be honest, not even a halfway decent fighter in Lora...a bout that was very generously and undeservedly kept on TV after Maidana pulled out (which of course wasn't his fault) - and we get that performance? (which, if you mute the HBO cheerleading, wasn't all that impressive at all considering how low-grade Lora is) :-(

 

Maybe i'm just being too brutally honest here. I just don't see any potential from this guy at all.

 

Maidana would've showed what thurman truly got. I kinda of think that Maidana thought he was too dangerous of an opponent and reward not there.

 

Punked Maidana big time right there. :yep

How do you turn down a "bum" on HBO?

 

how didn't you not? He can't be denied as at least having a good punch. Plus it was a bit of a concern on his gas tank since a lot of his fights ended in round 1. He was still throwing heavy shots with a lot of speed at round 6 so it showed at least he got speed, power, and somewhat of a decent gas tank. ALso got some maturity and composure. Lora is a C+ fighter and Thurman handled him like he should so.... we'll see.

 

I saw a guy with average speed, better tahn average power, and absolutely no technique at all.

I did not see a boxer with world level potential.

I don't know. If he steps up and fights a top 10 WW next we'll see. But right now my stance is he's getting thoroughly outboxed, and maybe knocked out by anybody in the top 10 at WW right now.

 

Somewhat of a decent gas tank when he's dishing out the majority of offense, having it mostly all his way, and dictating the offensive pace rather comfortably against a guy who didn't exactly ship it back the way Maidana would.

Granted, I've always considered Maidana to be a bit overrated since circa Kotelnik/Ortiz and am definitely not sold on him as a welterweight...but to say that Maidana dodged a bullet based on Thurman's showing against Lora (C+ is being rather kind, honestly) in his biggest step up to date is just.. :blood

Until Thurman proves more - a lot more - as far as I'm concerned Maidana is facing a much better & tougher opponent coming up in Jesus Soto Karass.

 

Soto Karas is toughter than Thurman??atsch

 

Perhaps.
I'm just glad that Lora didn't just show up to lie down, you can tell that he wants to knock Thurman's head off but just doesn't have the ability too.
Maidana is a warrior so i'm not sure why he choose to fight a worn out warrior in Karass as oppose of putting a whooping on a hot prospect. It is puzzling to me and the only conclusion i can think of is that Risk > Reward.

 

Thurman by ko

 

Yes.

I've been following JSK's career (consistently fighting better opposition than Thurman has fought to this very day, since before Thurman turned pro) and while he's no world-beater he's a damn sight more proven than your chump Thurman.

Do you even know anything about JSK? Have you ever seen him outside the Jones rematch and the loss to Rosado?

Limited and inconsistent, and never really grew as a fighter from his raw early days (where people were projecting him to be another Margarito) - but one thing you can't deny is his toughness, and his ability to potentially give anyone hell on a given night. Qualities Thurman hasn't even come close to demonstrating.

I'd favor half the guys Soto Karass has beaten over the version of Thurman we saw making his HBO debut, let alone the guys that beat him.

 

OMFG Stop hyping these fighters up.Took this guy damn near 7 rounds to get the 126 ranked welterweight in the world out of there. Says a lot for a fighter with ko power in both hands. Maidana would've mike jones'd his career.

 

Get past ortiz berto Lopez maidana Alexander, then talk about getting a fight with may or pac.Stop writing checks you can't cash and fellow esbers stop hyping these fighters that have no ****en credentials.

 

Hot prospect based on what?

Buzz on internet forums due to Youtube videos of him knocking cans around?

He'd fought twice in a few months but not at all before that since 2010, and both times were buried on non-televised undercards (although his May fight was part of the pre-PPV stream for Ring Kings, but it was the kick-off bout at 6pm so hardly anybody even saw it as the day's Euro boxing was barely even over yet)

It may well have been risk/reward or even outright fear, not saying you're wrong, but there's another possibility. Soto Karass despite having several losses has also been around a long time and worked his way into the rankings system, and is coming off two solid wins since Rosado stopped him on the inaugural NBC Sports show. It could be that beating him leads to a higher welterweight ranking than beating Thurman would. In fact, it almost certainly does considering that Thurman has beaten literally nobody to get himself ranked.