Paulie On Pac: No Credit For Guys Who Hide And Duck RBT

and who got caught after their fight?............Rios :deal

 

paulie who???

 

That's what happens when you're a LIL BlTCH that LIES and can't interpret things because your brain isn't fully developed.

You can't think and you're a lil BlTCH!!!

LOL

If you weren't an idiot, you would have attempted to investigate that.

You see, Urine is the only way to DETECT it, but sometimes it can produce false negatives.

To verify the result, you CAN use blood tests to detect the haematocrit value of riders, but blood test alone are unable to detect its source - endogenous or exogenous.

That is until Dr Jacques de Ceaurriz developed a urine test which is the ONLY "scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO."

In other words, only urine can detect it, but if you get a positive you CAN verify the result by running a blood test, which is UNABLE to detect EPO.


That's what it feels like to get BEAT DOWN LIKE A MOTHER F UCKER.

DAMN>>>>

YOU GOT DESTROYED!!!!

OH ****!!!


NOW say you're a LIL BlTCH!!!!!

 

The initial post i was responding to claimed that urine was better than blood, seeing as WADAs own website says that they should be used in conjuction proves that one is not better than the other, ie they both have limitations, but by being used together you can mitigate some of those. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080626100921.htm

Blood testing cannot distinguish between the various blood doping practices (eg rhEPO, blood doping, blood 'boosters'), but it

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detect them.

That is why blood testing ALONE has been used to convict several athletes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Serrano http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietro_Caucchioli

Therefore, it is clear that neither urine testing or blood testing are better than each other they both have limitations and should be used together for the greatest chance of detection. Also, blood testing can detect EPO use and has been used as such and has stood up legally, however it can't distinguish between EPO and other forms of blood doping, therefore it can't directly detect it.

Understand that?

 

First of all, you're using wiki to look up your answers.

That's an automatic fail if you ever went to school worth its salt.

Secondly, you still don't seem to be able to comprehend the difference between EPO, which is what is being discussed, and "various blood doping practices."

Due to your inability to understand what you lazily posted without reading, you don't seem to be able to differentiate between EPO and other forms of blood doping.

Blood TESTING CANNOT detect EPO.

Maybe you don't understand English:

"you CAN use blood tests to detect the haematocrit value of riders, but blood test alone are unable to detect its source - endogenous or exogenous."

You said it yourself, but since you are too stupid to understand what you LAZILY copy and pasted from WIKI.

EPO is an EXOGENOUS source, and the ONLY way to detect it, AGAIN...

FROM WADA's WEBSITE...

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources/Q-and-A/EPO-Detection/


NOT WIKI!!!!


"rinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO."

DID we discuss ANY OTHER TYPE OF BLOOD DOPING THAN EPO???



EXACTLY!!!!


NOW STFU you LIL BlTCH!!!!

LOL


YOU GOT DESTROYED!!!!

LOL

LOL

LOL

 

I have a hard time understanding people who say Paulie is jealous. Paulie has never claimed to be a better fighter than Manny, never claimed to be the best in the world. It is very difficult to attack anything that he says here, so people just attack Paulie directly, but it is hard to dispute what he is saying.

 

Testing both Blood and Urine will always be better than just testing urine or just testing blood.......use them both.

The shyt is really that simple people, that way you dont have to worry about what catches what better or all that other bullshyt...just do both.

 

You're the only idiot that keeps bringing up EPO to suit your urine argument. You're such a loser lol

 

Exactly. And that's all *******s do; spew insults to anyone not on Pac's side.

 

Kid,
All u talk bout is epo. That's last decades news.
Blood tests are good for detection on 100's of peds where urine can detect a few if within a few days of dosage

 

First off, wiki is as accurate as most encyclopedias. http://news.cnet.com/Study-Wikipedia-as-accurate-as-Britannica/2100-1038_3-5997332.html


Secondly, your wrong about common implementation of the blood test. It is normally used BEFORE the urine test in order to identify athletes who are suspected of blood doping. Then a test for EPO is often used. However the urine test is often unreliable, especially with modern 'micro-dosing' techniques. Therefore the blood test, I.E. the biological passport can be used alone to detect EPO use through detection of the abnormal rate of Reticulocyte production.

"Passport analysts then look for two things: the percentage in the sample of immature red blood cells, called reticulocytes, and the volume of mature red blood cells. (There is also a third measurement, referred to as an OFF-score, which is a ratio of those two numbers.) In healthy, non-doping humans, none of those values change a great deal. But in doped athletes they do.

Put another way: All humans react similarly to blood manipulation, and that means taking EPO or transfusing blood messes with people in ways that are both predictable and mostly (but not entirely) specific to doping. So even though EPO often leaves the body before it’s picked up by a drug test, and an athlete’s own blood is essentially undetectable, the passport allows testers find evidence of both."

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo...d-biking/What-is-the-Biological-Passport.html


Blood testing is scientifically valid method of detecting CERA, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19625154 which is commonly referred to as EPO, although i was reluctant to post that originally as it confuses the situation by getting into naming disambiguation.


Again my point still stands that Athletes have been convicted of blood doping via the biological passport blood testing ALONE "Since 2011, three cyclists have challenged the accuracy of the blood module in front of the Court of Arbitration for sport, and in each case the court upheld the cyclists’ bans."

Therefore it CAN be used to detect EPO use. I.E. if an athlete was using EPO it would have a chance of detecting it, however it cant distinguish between EPO and other blood doping practices, although it can detect CERA directly.

So it CAN detect EPO use.

 

:happy

 

shots fired!

 

AGAIN...

Mine came from the ACTUAL TESTING AGENCIES WEBSITE.

Mine came from WADA.

SHOW ME A legitimate SOURCE.

Because my SOURCE IS the ACTUAL SOURCE of ORGANIZATION that OVERSEES TESTING throughout the WORLD!!!

LOL

Are you really this dumb?

It's hard to argue with an imbecile.

Do I need to make a SCREEN PRINT to show you where the information came from?

Again...


FROM THE TESTING ORGANIZATION'S WEBSITE.

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources/Q-and-A/EPO-Detection/

 

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I am not surprised that these *******s start insulting anyone and everyone that are not on Manny's side. You can't really blame them. They are just an emotional bunch.