Pavlik: “By beating the crap out of (Martinez), we’ll silence the Williams camp,”

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  1. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why are you lying, there was articles on fightnews at two different occasions with Dzinziruk saying he personally would go to whatever venue Paul wanted and fight him for all the marbles, and Team Williams openly said they're lobbying for bigger names, no disrespect to Dzinziruk.

    The reason he's been inactive is the contract issues he's had, but Gary Shaw has officially signed him and is matching him soon, apparently with Simms for a first fight back.. then someone with a bigger name value at 154.
     
  2. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Paul and Sergio were negotiating a fight. And it was Arum brought more money to the table. No problem. But don;t make it sound like Paul refused to fight him, or that he ran from him.

    Whether you like him or not, you gotta recognize it's a buncha horse****.
     
  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its a business at the end of the day, and the same reason Paul is opting to fight bigger names rather than Dzinziruk and Clottey.
     
  4. NoHomeJerome

    NoHomeJerome Boxing Junkie banned

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    He's not garbage but I get what you're saying. Pavlik could be a ruined fighter after his embarrassing humiliation at the hands of a 44 year old, we don't know yet, because he hasn't fought anyone since (forget his two matches versus them ham and eggers.)

    He pulled out against Williams TWICE, now apparently he is calling out Williams, so what? The Pavlik boys thinks this proves something, it doesn't, he already pulled out TWICE, I don't blame Williams for wanting nothing to do with the time waster.
     
  5. Uncle Oden

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    this is such bull****. Here's the link with the quotes from Dzinziruk himself, blaming Universum for the Williams fight not happening!

    [url]http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/interviews/5681/2009-08-14/Dzinziruk-Dumping-Universum-For-Paul-Williams-Fallout[/url]
     
  6. NeckBreaknAiken

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    Like I said, I don't have a problem with the way the Martinez fight or the Dzinzurick fight didn't happen... It's business.


    But it's an outright lie to suggest that he ran from the rematch or that he was scared of Dzinzurik.
     
  7. MrMagic

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    That is not news, we all know he dumped Universum for not getting him the fights he wanted. But as late as June of last year, he was saying his contract with Universum had expired and that he was open to fight Williams, whereas Universum the money lusting whores said he was under no circumstances to fight without being under their banner.

    [url]http://www.fightnews.com/?p=15387[/url]

    [url]http://www.fightnews.com/?p=79[/url]

    At the end of the day, Universum is to blame. Much for not having Sturm fight Arthur Abraham aswell, and Sturm not making USA cards.
     
  8. MrMagic

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    I personally dont blame Williams, or any other fighter individually.

    I think Universum is a joke, and Bob Arum is a joke when it comes to matching against Goosen or European promotions.
     
  9. Uncle Oden

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    then that's all good if you are acknowledging Universum is to blame, it just contradicts what you stated about Williams ducking him. Dzinzurik's situation was such a mess that he had no fights last year so that pretty much sums it up.
     
  10. 1 Hitta Quitta

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    PWs performance against Martinez really made me have some doubt about how he would fare against Pavlik. I know they arent the same fighters but I have been noticing that PW isnt as solid as I once thought he was. I think Pavlik vs Williams would not be one-sided and Pavlik would have more than a shot of winning. I am a huge PW fan but he is not as good as I once thought he was, he will be dropped/exposed in his next 3 fights at the very most.
     
  11. MrMagic

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    Its pretty clear Williams isnt actually ducking fighters personally, why would he then take on Martinez? It doesnt make sense.

    Although, I don't think he wanted Dzinziruk following his wins over Verno Phillips and Winky Wright, but thats just me.

    At the end of the day, Universum is to blame..
     
  12. Hermit

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    Front page story. He pretty much said Kelly is afraid of him. I cut Paul slack until then. Now? Not so much....
     
  13. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    JUST LIKE HE BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA BHOP RIGHT:rofl:rofl PAVLIK IS A B MINUS FIGHTER AT BEST THESE DAYS...U NOT LOOKING AT THE SAME FIGHTER WHO WON THE TITLE IN 2007 MAN...

    U IN DENIAL, GET OVER IT:deal:deal
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Paul will be making a lot more money if(hopefully) he gets the big fights at ww...

    Lets see kelly move between mw, smw, and go 5-1 in his last 6 fights...

    Cant do it cuz kelly is not the same fighter he is at 160....not good enough
     
  15. pavlik fan

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    well guess what he is not nor is his team worring about williams..pav calls him out to shut him up...they already know who the next fight will be with..