Pavlik-Abraham will end by Abraham getting KTFO in the mid rounds

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  1. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think there is any other fighter in the middleweight who is comparable to AA and his punching power. How many guys have predicted that AA will get koed by Miranda? How many guys still underrate AA and think of him as a wild slugger who only throws haymakers? I have followed his career from the very beginning. He knows what he does. He isn't stupid at all and he isn't a wild puncher. If you think that you underrate him as well ;)
     
  2. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    So what are you saying then?? He's not a wild puncher? It's all he's done...Ive watched it.....he's devoid of any real jab.....always leads with a left hook......whats so great? and whats the ****ing mystery??
     
  3. gottagivafight

    gottagivafight When you least expect it, expect it!!! banned Full Member

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    Let me reinforce your point, as well as mine from earlier: Kelly's far more focused and has a better chin. Kelly's that special kinda fighter (like our ever-beloved Gatti) that can take a good bit of punishment to get in there and finish you. This is whats gonna unfurl the night of thier fight. Betcha.
     
  4. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    The big deal here is focus....it's also the major difference between Gatti and Pavlik.....Pavlik is more skilled and composed.....because of his skill level he can choose how he wants to beat AA inside or outside it all = KO for Pavlik
     
  5. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Yep -- and he destroyed McKart, who had never been stopped in 54 fights, with BODY SHOTS!
     
  6. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I should add: AA is the personification of a warrior.

    Yes, you're right. AA has no jab straight out of the textbook. If we speak of technically skills I would prefer Pav as well.
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Eastman couldn't hold Zertuche's jock ?

    You really don't know a ****in' thing about the sport, do you ?
     
  8. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    A nice display of your character :)

    I did not compare Pavlik to Miranda but two of their fanboys. This "He can not beat him because..." blabla is nothing but hot air. Sure Abraham can beat Pavlik and sure Pavlik can beat Abraham. Sorry that your not man enough to admit that. :)

    :hi:
     
  9. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    They might hold each others thats about it:lol: :lol: but you and I both know that Eastman was a tired shell of his former self the same can't be said for Zertuche...so put that in your pipe and smoke it:rasta
     
  10. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well when you start insinuating pure bull**** how do expect me to react? espescially when your serious
    And I agree Abraham has about a 5% chance of beating Pavlik....thats all my logic can grant after the bar room brawl this past saturday and honestly I wish I could say different because I was really looking forward to the fight with AA and Pav but now its very clear this will be a "Gary Lockett" type of beatdown and showcase
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Only one clown on here and you'll see him if you look in the mirror.

    If and when this fight gets made, and if AA KO's Kelly, that clown will probably disappear, just like Pantera and KilltheKing after Miranda's loss, and ListonTyson and Bustalip after Bernard's loss.

    That clown hasn't watched much boxing, and is a bit weak on logic.


    On the bright side, he appears to have a future in arranging emoticons .
     
  12. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guys, may I remember Wlad Klitch KOs words? Talk is cheap! :cool:
     
  13. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm stunned how clueless ESB became after this fight. I'm reading so much funny sh/t that it almost hurts. Really, according to most of these users, Abraham is a slugger, a wide puncher, a brawler, a street fighter etc. etc... :patsch

    Abraham is nothing else but a European-style, defensive-minded pure (okay, not that pure) boxer usually counterpunching and exploding from behind the great defense of him. Also with a precise and well-timed jab and well-timed accurate counter-punching. The wild action vs. Miranda was rather unusual from Abraham but if you've only seen that fight, well... you shouldn't talk (idiotic things) too confident about about him, because it makes you funny...

    Stating that Kelly Pavlik, eating 65% of power shots vs. Taylor in the first fight, is a better boxer than Arthur, who's numbers are about 25-30 is truly idiotic. Also even if Pavlik is very effective with his jab-based style (35% landed in the 2nd Taylor fight, which is average, but still took 43% in return which is very high for a 'boxer'), Abraham's effectiveness is truly stunning. Of course mostly because he throws few punches, but those are carefully selected, well-timed and landing - and he barely takes flush shots in return... I've never taken time to do compubox on my own, but his landing percentage should be at least double of what he takes... But I won't be too harsh here because the two Miranda fights are pretty bad examples of Abraham's usual fighting style and those two were the ones the US could watch. Solution: watch other fights of him, and there you go, you'll have a clue what is Abraham capable of.

    Kelly Pavlik will never 'outbox' Abraham. He might outslug and outwork him. Outboxing is what Taylor did in the second Pavlik fight but was not enough. Pavlik's UD chances are high not because he's an excellent boxer (good boxer offensively, below average in defense) but because he's throwing a lot. Pure workrate, nothing more. The second Taylor fight showed nothing else but Pavlik, even if he's fighting vs. a more effective, more skilled boxer, he can still win with a lot of confidence in his style and a great workrate. And I like what Kelly does... but does that makes him 'a better boxer than Abraham'?
     
  14. curmudgeon

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    Wide, looping and slow? Buy some better glasses and get the **** out of here.

    Jesus, I like Pavlik a lot, but his fans are blabbering like a bunch of misinformed ******s.
     
  15. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    "look in the mirror"? wow every post is as enlightening as the last :lol: :lol: :lol:
    just be here after AA is KTFO for the first time in his career and we'll see who is the more logical of the two of us.....in all actuality you havent pointed out one single thing AA has on Pav other than power...because we both know he hasnt the SKILL to wield it effectively against Kelly Pavlik

    Go ahead and ignore the fundamentals youre good at it:good