Pavlik and the last chance saloon

"The School of Bernard Hopkins." - I like it :good

Pavlik - Abraham would be interesting...

 

So has Pavlik completely given up on trying to make 160? I hope so, no point trying to get back into that division, when it seems obvious that's he's outgrown it.

If he stays focused on his training and gets back to what he was, he could be a force at 168 and probably pick up a title. I would love to see Froch/Pavlik.

 

I've always liked Pavlik. Is he still with Jack "double the jab" Loew?

 

His strength and power will be sapped further at 168 IMO, where his lack of speed will further hamper his ability to impose himself (IMO)

Still, looking forward to seeing him Saturday night, who is he fighting? :good

 

Jack is a sharp guy, but he really seems to offer very little to Kelly when things ain't going well. Pavlik is not a natural athlete so needs the right training and advice, he's not the type of fighter that can improvise on the fly and needs the proper guidance and needs his trainer to be his eyes in the fight.

It's a shame Kelly had his problems with the drink because he left a lot money on the table and he's always fun to watch. I really respect Pavlik because he's the type of fighter that has to overcome so much and he's got a lot of fighting spirit. If you notice he always dominated guys he should and that's always a sign of a good fighter.

 

At the time, Zuniga, Miranda and Taylor was a solid run. Taylors athleticism was how he differed from those two, and although Taylor hadn't impressed in his defences against Winky and Ouma, I still fancied him to do the job.

Taylor gets almost dismissed now, but styles or weight drained or what, he did enough to beat a still top quality (as evidenced in their two fights) B-Hop and was the man at 160 when Pavlik spectacularly toppled him.

Shame Kelly and Arthur didn't get it on at 160, that was the fight to make at one point of time, and a clash of styles that guaranteed fireworks, be it Pavlik beating Abraham down or Abraham landing something big on the always hittable Ohio fighter.

What's the opponent like? Undefeated, but any substance? His post B-Hop run (including his blatant ducking of P-Dub) up until Martinez was shocking.

 

Lets face it, Taylor had him gone in the first fight but couldn't finish him, pavlik was very lucky but took his chance very well.
Exciting fighter when on form, I think all the top guys at 168 would wipe the floor with him but it's a solid division.Froch absolutley canes him

 

Alright Flea...

Pavlik vs Williams in Late 2009...

Talk to me.

 

He isn't in last chance saloon. He is big, long, strong and powerful. As long as he comes to fight he'll make things interesting. I hope he isn't mentally shot as he can recapture what he did to Miranda and Taylor. Fighters like Pavlik need to go back to the drawing board. In MMA, fighters evolve, not so in boxing. More boxers need to do so, Pavlik is the classic case of a fighter who needs to analyse his game and come back better.

 

Pavlik just wasn't looking his destructive best at that time. Whilst Williams' crowding would see him open to Pavliks right uppercut, Williams tempo and output would see Pavlik ragged IMO.

Williams, via decision in an exciting fight.