Pavlik/DeGale? WTF? In England? Shirley, you jest?

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  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    So both Degale and the guy that beat him are world class and better than Pavlik in you eyes? My opinion is the poster I responded too turned it into a UK vs USA thing with his bias. Just like when Canada's hope was going to brutalize one of Pavlik's left overs recently.....
     
    Hermit, Jun 25, 2011
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  2. Hermit

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    If Kelly sneezes the ref stops the fight and calls it a TKO after he looks at War*ren to get the OK.
     
    Hermit, Jun 25, 2011
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  3. happydrinks

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    Pavlik fans with their excuses already I see
     
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  4. Welsh Dragon

    Welsh Dragon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is that why most Americans stay in their backyard?
     
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  5. Hermit

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    Kahn/Berrara...... Let it go 4 rounds and then declare the cut too bad even though it is no worse than when it happened.. ****** thought he was Santa Clause with that finger to the side of the nose gesture I suppose. Funny **** right there....
     
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  6. happydrinks

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    Kelly only lost to Hopkins because the fight wasn't at 160.

    Kelly only lost to Martinez because the fight was at 160.

    Kelly only lost to DeGale because the fight was in England.

    Yeah that excuse should work. About as plausible as the other ones.
     
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  7. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :roll: holy **** are you Brittards bad
     
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  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    What -- no takers? You all seem to base your "Pavlik is shot to ****" theory on the Lopez fight. I thought surely one of ESB's expert analysts would be able to post some video, and walk us through a blow by blow, move by move, account of all the mistakes Lopez made?

    If Alfonso Lopez is actually a decent fighter who did not make many mistakes, it follows logically that KP logged in a decent performance, and your evidence that "Pavlik is shot to ****" does not exist. If that's the case, you should admit your mistake. It's always been my understanding that the admission of errors is an important part of mature manhood.

    If Alfonso Lopez sucks, and made a ton of mistakes that KP failed to capitalize on, just show me what those mistakes were, and when they occurred. If you did that, I'd have to re-think my position. Perhaps it would be me that has to admit I was wrong.

    So, instead of sitting there running off at the keyboard like some worthless internet warrior, take up the challenge. I dare ya!
     
    booradley, Jun 26, 2011
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  9. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Degale is tougher fight than Bute for pavlik me thinks..

    I would love to see pavlik on top again.
     
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  10. Hermit

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    It is easy to see which ones boil it down to: "I'm from GB and therefore DeFail > Pavlik." Notice they are quick to take offense and won't touch actual boxing related matters, just fanboy insultarama. I set them off on me for pointing out that saying DeFail and Groves were both better than Pavlik was being a tad nationalistic. You want them to actually discuss boxing and this match up on its merits? :rofl Like I said above, if DeFail fights Pavlik it will be more one sided and shocking to them than Rubio vs David (T-Rex arms) Lemieux. :deal They won't answer your post anymore than they will answer the Kahn/Barrera post where you see the ref look at ****** who signals him to stop the fight after it had gone 4 rounds and not before so Kahn could get the win. That cut was no worse after 4 than it was going into the 4th.
     
    Hermit, Jun 26, 2011
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  11. booradley

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    I honestly can't imagine why Frank ****** is so anxious to make this fight. Pavlik has used good prospects for sparring partners in the past. He should throw this crap right back in Frankie's face by offering deGale a job!
     
    booradley, Jun 26, 2011
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  12. Hermit

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    You are forgetting that in England, non title fights don't have judges, just the ref. I lessens the number of people ****** has to pay off for this one. I think if Bute doesn't happen team Pavlik will come to their senses on this one for just that fact alone. I'm still expecting Bute, but I'd love to see him batter DeFail around for a while in a place where you have 3 judges and a ref.....
     
    Hermit, Jun 26, 2011
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  13. Jan(DK)

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    If anything, one could come till the conclusion, that Bute don't give the opponent the highest purseoffers.....................
     
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  14. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not that bad. Pavlik would knock him out.
     
    Gneus7, Jun 28, 2011
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  15. ApatheticLeader

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    I absolutely love how diverse the predictions are, it's brilliant and how you KNOW it's a interesting fight.

    It's one I'd have to sit on the fence...
     
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