Pavlik does not fight at 168

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Beebs, Feb 16, 2008.


  1. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So shut the **** up about Calzaghe and especially Kessler who is essentially an inferior version of Pavlik.

    Pavlik is a Middleweight, in the tradition of all the great middleweight champions in the history of boxing , not a 168'er, in the tradition of....3 people.
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Pavlik should stay at 160 and try to build a legacy for himself at that weight. No need to move up to 168 when he can make good money and probably beat anybody (with Abraham being his by far his most dangerous opponent).

    Kessler IS better than Pavlik though
     
  3. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik would destroy Kessler whos as overrated as they come.
     
  4. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :deal

    Some reason, they just can't ****in stand it.:rofl
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I would favor Kessler

    He has better speed, lateral movement, jab, timing, and accuracy. He'd control the distance between himself and Pavlik and land crisp power punches from a distance.

    But once again, this fight wont happen anytime soon, so discussing fights like Pavlik/Trinidad, Pavlik/Abraham, and Pavlik/Wright would be more appropriate.
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ****, 154 is closer to 160 than 168 is.

    I don't see anybody trashing the 154'ers that would lose to Pavlik (all of them)
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Kessler has much better speed than Pavlik from what I've observed. Both footspeed and handspeed.

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  8. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    NO DOUBT!!!! What they're doing would be exactly the same as if after every good 154 fight, Pavlik fans all gather round and shout "OH YEAH, well Pavlik would kick his ass!".:rofl
     
  9. teekay00

    teekay00 fight Full Member

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    i believe pavlik should stay at 160 and never move up again, i dont think he gains anything by moving up but loses speed and power for his size.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    My bad...I agree there that Taylor has the faster hands
     
  11. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik is a huge MW. I tihnk he can easily fight at 168 or even 175.
     
  12. auggiewest

    auggiewest Member Full Member

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    I think kessler is getting raw deal on this forum he is very formidable. calzaghe is just a real tough matchup and master at defense/angles.
    pavlik would have all he can handle with mikkel
     
  13. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But he doesn't he is a Middleweight, the best Middleweight in the world, he fights other middleweights.

    Kessler would get put in a coma against Wlad, should we **** all over him?
     
  14. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you can not see the difference between your analogy of Pavlik vs Kessler and Kessler vs Wlad, you should swat your hear with a ream of paper.
     
  15. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course, but neither one is a reason to degrade a fighter.

    They are in different divisions, period.