Pavlik Interview after the fight

This is exactly what he should've said. However, if he's not going to he should've at least refrained from implying that Hopkins had nothing to do with Pavlik losing that fight. Again, I have no sympathy for him. He dissrespected a legend and now must deal with the consequences.

 

You know nobody would say that, even the most humble guy out there.
Anyway, you don't like the guy, so I'm not going to change your mind.

PS: @GoD: Loew is an ass-clown.

Reporter: "What was your strategy coming into the fight"?

Clown: "Our strategy was to win the fight, ha ha ha". :verysad

What an *******.

 

Let's clarify though, C; Pavlik wasn't just lamenting the fallout - he was denying full credit. He was denying himself full accountability. That's the part that people have a problem with. That's the weakness. Not his emotions.

 

I agree, and this takes into account whatever happened at the end of the fight. I'm not going to go crazy over what Pavlik said but I agree on this one.

Both camps played tough and hard, the difference is Kelly got his ass kicked. When that happens, you have to deal with it and move on. Instead, KP sounded like the USC squad not giving credit to Vince Young and Texas after they lost the Rose Bowl a few years ago, the "it's not them, we beat ourselves" stuff. That's weak. Especially after the underlying tone that they would KO Hopkins.

 

Yep, I see your point, but don't you think his emotions had something to do with the shitty way he explained his defeat? I think it had a lot to do with his emotions at the time.
Still, I don't like dumb excuses either, he shouldn't have said something so wrong (and untrue). I just don't crucify him for doing that, just because it was right after a very bad and embarassing loss. Plus I consider the fact that it was his first ever loss, so that would be a very awkard moment and it would make it unfamiliar territory for him.

 

has anyone got the link please?

 

Where are people crucifying him though?

He said some unfortunate things, the response seems equal to the offense.

 

Your right. Good post. I'm the one still in denial. Your last line is the truth. I think KP was believing the hype too much. Or was he just being as confident as he always is?

 

Whatever it was, let's hope he gets back to the pre Jermain Taylor days. That's the Kelly that got through a tough second round and came back stronger against Taylor. That's the Pavlik that earned my respect and admiration.

 

Since when was Hopkins ever gracious in defeat.

I've only seen the interview once straight after the fight but Pavlik seemed fair enough to me. Could have given a little more respect but wasn't exceptionally disrespectful.

 

Well, thats not the one that showed up Sat night. When he didn't throw a jab in the 1st 15 seconds of round 1, I said som ting wong here. Things never changed. He wasn't 100%. That sucks. We all got robbed of a possible great fight. But KP got hurt the worst.

 

I was refering to the "I don't have respect/sympathy for him" kind of comments.
True though, the things he said were unfortunate no doubt.
But mostly I blame his team and not him for the pre-fight trash talk and the excuses he made after the fight. Although I do grant him the fact he stated he was given a lesson by B-Hop.
I also agree with Big Reg's comment about Pavlik believing his own hype, but mostly I blame his team/"trainer" for that.

 

Why should I have sympathy for him? This guy just got 3 mill and barely put up a fight. He's also still got his belt. He's insulted both Calzaghe and Hopkins; two guys who have paid there dues. This guy beat one legit fighter and became a top 10 fighter. I don't want to hear **** about his corner. He was talking **** himself, and he continued to discredit Hopkins after the fight despite getting shutout. I don't care if it was his first loss. You didn't see Taylor discrediting him after he lost to Pavlik.

He also said it wasn't Hopkins' athleticisim and slickness that bothered him. He said he just wasn't himself, that it wasn't him in there. How could Hopkins give him a lesson if it wasn't him in there? The guy basically said Hopkins had nothing to do with him losing. And I'm supposed to feel sorry for this guy?:roll:

Yeah, his trainer definately blew a lot of smoke up his ass. Still, he's a grown man. These guys work for him. He shouldn't be allowing people to say these type of things unless he believes these things himself.

 

I didn't say you should have sympathy or feel sorry for him. You can go punch him in the face if you feel like it. All I'm saying is, even that fighters/basketball players etc. get well paid, they're also humans, so I can understand (not justify) they could say something shitty when frustrated and/or embarassed. But, if he sticks to it and continues to discredit Hopkins even after he calms down (the next few days will tell), that's a different story and I would be 100% with you.

Fair enough. But even grown men (he IS young after all) can be influenced when people that are around them feed them with hype. Don't forget he has a special relationship with Loew, so it's fair to think Pavlik listens to what he tells him. Yes, he started to believe his own hype, it is his fault too, but his team didn't exactly try to hold him back, quite the opposite. Of course I'm blaming him, but I blame his team (especially Loew) the most.