Pavlik is not small

Plus, Calzaghe beat Hopkins...nuff' said! lol

 

Paul Williams is taller and has a greater reach than Hopkins too. Thomas Hearns has both in favour of Mike Tyson.

Height and reach are not the only criteria.

It's about how a fighter carries himself at that weight and, because of that, I don't think Pavlik can fight effectively above 160lbs.

 

Pavlik is gigantic at middleweight, everyone knows that. He is taller than Hopkins, and he only jumped a little over 1 weight class, as the fight was fought only 2lbs above the supermiddleweight limit, far closer than it was to light-heavy. Plus Pavlik had already fought at 166lbs- a massive 4lbs away from the limit for the Hopkins fight.

Any attempt to discredit Hopkins's win will FAIL.

 

And looked nowhere near as good against the same opponent as he did 6lbs below.

Some fighters just don't move up well. Ricky Hatton or Wilfredo Gomez, for instance.

 

You make stupid people feel smart. That is a fact.:deal

 

Ricky Hatton was very small at welterweight, that was obvious. Pavlik is not small above middleweight, he is still huge. I know you hate Hopkins, but seriously, size is not an excuse in this case. Give a guy credit where it's due.

 

I don't hate Hopkins at all. I just hate his deluded fans who think he is something special. I've had four avatars on this forum in all the time I've been here. Earnie Shavers, George Foreman, Aaron Pryor and....Bernard Hopkins.

So if you think I'm biased against him, you're wrong.

I just see things from a different perspective when it comes to him. I think the majority of his biggest wins weren't great achievements and people overstate things like his age, which doesn't mean anything to me.

 

Our viewpoints are too divergent to bother continuing. To me, Hopkins is just a true Master Boxer.

 

This is correct PACFAN.

 

Hopkins is THE Master Boxer right now.

 

He is the most skilled fighter in the world at this precise moment, JMM second as Jones and Toney are no longer what they were.

 

Of course he is a master boxer, he is THE LEGEND after all.

But obviously you guys haven't seen Calderon fight!

 

Although Pavlik was built like a girlscout at 170 in comparison to Hopkins it had absolutely no effect on the outcome.

 

There will always be excuses...

 

Trinidad a natural 147 welterweight

Pavlik a natural 160 middleweight....period. so why the excuses?

Pavlik is as big and strong as Hopkins.