Pavlik Looks Too Dangerous For Joe So They Are Ducking Him?

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  1. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. standing 8countboxing

    standing 8countboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it's simply the fact Roy Jones will bring in more money. Pavlik is such a much more meaningful fight at this stage, but I'm going with the money outlook.
     
  3. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    honestly lets put the fanfare aside for one moment, they were looking at Pavlik as an opponent then Kelly looks spectacular vs Lockette suddenly their interest wane. Pavlik is the bigger fight in America right now Jones no longer means the same. How can you justify this? Jones vs Calzaghe is a load of ****, how can you not see that. The only fights worth it are Dawson or Pavlik. STOP EXCUSING THESE CHERRY PICKERS WITH THE SAME TIRED LINE.
     
  4. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you ****in morons hype pavlik up to be bigger than life
     
  5. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and you idiots continually cheer a man who ducks every tough fighter in or around his divison who picks and chooses opponents carefully who got his ass handed to him by a 43 yr old man in the only true meaningful fight this **** has ever had, and he was put on his ass. Hatton, Kessler and Joe C are proctected and overhyped and will never beat an ATG in his prime. Hasnt happened yet and never will. Only skillful matchmaking has allowed these guys to bask in the undeserved reputations they now enjoy. But, the cover on Warren, Palle and their Machinations to include ducking and careful matchmaking is just getting too obvious to ignore anymore the truth is out. You guys refuse to compete at the highest level or against the best and every time you do you lose.
     
  6. dbouziane

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    agreed. i do like joe but he didnt do himself any favors against hopkins given all the smack he talked. all hopkins had to do was put up a fight in the later rounds and all might be different. but he didnt and here we are. i just read that joe doesnt think kelly deserves to fight him...that joe would handle him...well...how bout joe fighting jermain seeing how jermain beat hopkins twice and joe "beat" hopkins and the winner fight pav. (i know joe might not be around that long but all the talk has been one sided like pav has to prove himself to fight joe...well how bout joe prove himself against someone pav has beaten)
     
  7. beatdown

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  8. dbouziane

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    my point being that pav has fought just as many studs a joe so the whole pav has to prove himself to get a shot is kinda dumb (and i like joe) miranda, taylor twice.....any thoughts??
     
  9. KCD

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    Kessler was/is more dangerous and a better rounded fighter than Pavlik.

    Hopkins was a tougher fight than Pavlik would be for Joe.

    People have to remember in the Taylor rematch Pavlik was becoming aggitated when he couldnt find the 'spot'. If he gets confused and aggitated with Taylors speed and combination punching then what about Calzaghe.

    Again people critisied Calzaghe v Manfredo yet praise Pavliks performance against Lockett:patsch

    Pavlik fans:- Its easy to look good against a guy who stands in front of you and does sweet F.A.

    And Lockett wasnt even the best in Britain.

    Calzaghe dominating UD over Pavlik:yep
     
  10. Ilesey

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    In a word - No!
     
  11. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Kessler my ass! Pavlik, Cotto, maybe Povetkin, and a few others are the future of boxing. The robo-dane is the future of Friday Night Fights!
     
  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Kelly Pavlik just destroyed some big name called Gary Lockett and now Joe Calzaghe is ducking him? Awesome!

    Anybody who believes this is either stupid or American. :patsch
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    But all of his other points you failed to address.

    Why is Kelly Pavlik praised for fighting Gary Lockett but Joe Calzaghe criticised for fighting Manfredo?


    What can Pavlik do to outbox Joe because Joe has never been knocked out so he ain't getting knocked out against Kelly...who has overrated power.
     
  14. Bomber

    Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quoted for truth.
     
  15. FLINT ISLAND

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    Alot of top Americans are like that then - you cant call alot of Amercians all time greats because they have never fought outside their country - they stay in the safe home ground of USA - why are Amercians so arrogant to think you have to come to the USA or your unproven - what a load of **** - USA fighters are unproven - and alot of the hyped american fighters like Gerald McClenan and Jeff Lacy have come to British shores and got beat up badly.


    Calzaghe Unified the Super Middleweight divison and you say Bernard Hopkins was the only meaniful fight he had - people like you have a ridiculous way of thinking - you cant please people like you - you are the type who is very selective about who you give credit to - refuse to give credit to someone because you are just a petty minded unfair person - Calzaghe wan all FOUR super middleweight belts- not even Roy Jones did that. Hopkins was a tough fight but then Hopkins is a good fighter regardless of his age.

    Amercians have been exposed when they have come to fight in Britain.

    Come on Americans stop hiding on home shores - prove yourself - the world dont revolve around Amercia - Calzaghe has now fought in USA - Bernard Hopkins has never fought in Britain - UNPROVEN PROTECTED - that is the reverse of the stupid mindset you arrogant YANKS have.