Pavlik Looks Too Dangerous For Joe So They Are Ducking Him?

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  1. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe doesn't want to step into the ring against Kelly.
     
  2. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    anyway is there not some unfinished business in the middleweight division for pavlik to sort out if abraham defeats miranda again.pavlik hasn't shown any inclination tho fight abraham,is he ducking him?
     
  3. boxingbull

    boxingbull Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont think pavlik needs calzaghe, the same way I dont think calzaghe needs joe. pavlik can still make a name for himself by unifying 160 and fighting at 168 in the future which is rich in competition (bute, kessler taylor pascal etc) while calzaghe can fight the likes of g.johnson, dawson, tarver, rjj etc. I believe if calzaghe were to beat glen or dawson, the win would be more satisfying to true boxing fans more than fighting a old and possibly shot rjj. However if they were to fight I would favor calzaghe by UD 12 as I think he is a bit too skilled of a fighter for pavlik at this point in terms of boxing ability and volume of punches, however I would never count pavlik out as he has beat boxers (taylor) convincenly and one punch can mean lights out.
     
  4. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've never heard Paul Williams breath a word about wanting to fight Kelly. Kelly would fight anyone. Take that to the bank!
     
  5. Hermit

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    Obvioulsy you don't watch otherwise you would know. Abraham has been mentioned for MONTHS by Arum and after the Lockett fight. You have your head too far up Joe to know there is other boxing news?
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    According to your standards, the fact that he's been mentioning him for months means Pavlik must fight him next or otherwise is ducking, right?
     
  7. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The difference is Kelly wants to fight the best out there. Joe wants the easier fight.
     
  8. ron u.k.

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    ah you see your judging everyone by your own mentallity.i'm neither a joe hugger or a kelly hater,the post was just a little provocative to show how people can interpret things to suit their own viewpoint.as far as i know kelly himself hasn't called out abraham,so therefore i can only conclude that he's ducking him.screw what arum says.
     
  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I think it's generally agreed he wants the one that will earn him most money.
     
  10. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    KELLY has said he will fight whoever is placed in front of him. Kellerman threw out Abraham's and Cal's name and Kelly said it didn't matter, he would fight godzilla. The fans in AC went crazy when Cals name was mentioned. Kellerman said to Kelly, looks like they want you to fight Cal. Kelly smiled and said to the fans, you want me to fight Cal.

    If Cal choses to fight RJJ, I hope Abraham beats Miranda, because you will see AA vs Kelly.
     
  11. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good But, this is a disgrace to boxing! No wonder MMA is getting stronger.
     
  12. Bomber

    Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When did Kessler and Bute become small fry for Pavlik, a man with 6000 hardcore traveling ( If you call Ohio to New York a massive trip) fans and a win over Lockett.
     
  13. Hermit

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    Again, you aren't paying attention to the situation or you would know. You don't and you don't. Know what you are talking about before posting.
     
  14. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't say that. The Joe fight needs to happen now or it won't happen. Kessler is only known by hardcore fans and others know him as the Dane who lost to Cal. Bute is only known by hardcore fans.
     
  15. ron u.k.

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    i can't believe people take any notice of what fighters say anyway.wow kelly says he'll fight anyone,well thats revolutionary thinking, and it must mean he's the toughest sob out there.