Pavlik MUST leave Youngstown for his own good, Ulli Wegner & Germany would be nice!

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    According to Big Bone, Pavlik should move to Germany and fight under Uli Wegner.

    Let's see how that works:

    Move to a foreign country and fight guys like LuJaun Simon, Mahir Oral, Elvin Ayala, and Wayne Elcock for, if he's lucky, $500K a pop.

    Or,

    Stay home and earn multi million dollar paydays fighting guys like Wiliams and Bute at Boardwalk Hall and MSG, and of course promote and help operate his restaurant between fights.

    Boy, that sounds like a tough choice:think
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't think Ulli would have problems with that. Using the double jab at the right time or vs. the right opponent can be very effective. Kelly could also learn other kind of jabs, look at Wlad for example, he uses the left in many different ways. Whatever haters or fanboys say or don't say, I believe Kelly still could improve a lot, but not with Loew.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Pavlik uses his jab about 5 different ways. If you don't see that, you're not even close to being the analysist I thought you were.

    Personally I think we should wait until a middleweight manages to go 12 rounds with KP before we start talking about giving him to the guy who trained the fighter that allowed Shannon Taylor and LuJaun Simon to last 12.
     
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are quite pathetic when trying to put words in my mouth. :lol:

    Where did I say move to Germany and FIGHT in Germany, in front of 14.000 fans, 7 millions viewers and excellent free TV & sponsor money, why would he do that? I said at least TRAIN anywhere else than YT, don't care, Canada, China, anywhere away from distractions and under professional circumstances. Wlad fights in the US and Germany but trains in Austria. Khan trains in the US, and guess what he fights in the UK. How many issues are coming from their camps? :think
     
  5. aceshigh

    aceshigh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Throw lots of punches, that's how Calzaghe beat him.

    Hit him in the balls!

    Oh well, you still have the belt's.

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    Great advice Spanky!:patsch
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Make me a list of every fighter who lasted more than 9 rounds with Pavlik, and if your list impresses me, we'll talk about necassary changes.
     
  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I can't imagine him in Germany, too much cultural difference. I do agree that a new trainer, some new thoughts could refresh things. His career has hit a stumbling block with injuries etc, now seems a good time.
     
  8. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kelly also said f*ck the doctor, I'm not going. Boxers say a lot of things, but they are 'just' athletes, that's why there should be a professional team kicking his ass to the doctor's. Can you honestly say that he's got the best, caring team around him looking after his health and out-of-ring-habits, the best possible trainer to bring out 100% of his abilities, the best possible promoter bringing him the best fights with no troubles, and there are no distractions just unfortunate events?
     
  9. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    His immune system is ****. He would go to Germany and get some ole crazy diease we never heard of and that would be the end of his career.
     
  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Then why does Jack Loew now say "There's no way I let my fighter go into a ring unless he's 100% healthy"?
     
  11. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    It is obvious that you place more emphasis on rumours and gossip than you place on facts. I've posted the known time line ten times, and their simply wasn't time for KP to miss even one doctor appointment, let alone the rumoured three.

    Distractions? Ya -- I guess the birth of a child, the negotiations of a new promotional contract that gives Pavlik more control, and the opening of a multi-million dollar restaurant are all just terrible things that KP's team shouldn't have allowed.
     
  12. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol

    Guys, Germany is actually a very nice place to live. I know a lot of foreigners (even from US) who really like it here.

    I don't know if Wegner would be the right coach for KP - or if KP is the right fighter to be trained by Wegner. But to train in Germany and to fight in the US is perfectly possible.
     
  13. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did he postpone and cancel the Mora fight then postpone the Williams fight 3 times due to these events?
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Who wanted the Mora fight? Answer; Bob Arum and NoOne else!

    How do you get 3 times for Williams? Haymon screwed it up last year, and it had nothing to do with Pavlik, or Williams.

    This time Pavlik moved forward on the word of his ****ing Doctor, and the doctor was wrong. How anyone can blame that on any member of Team Pavlik is beyond me.
     
  15. wow_junky

    wow_junky Retired Full Member

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    A change of trainer isn't going to help Pavlik, and the hate will keep piling on until he puts on a performance fitting of the middleweight champion of the world