Pavlik on Abraham

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Hermit, Jul 2, 2008.


  1. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Pavlik is right when he says that Miranda helped in that knockout.

    Miranda as stated before has serious defensive flaws. He leaves his head right up in the air and drops his guard after right hands. He doesn't move back near enough nor does he offer much head movement or guard protection.

    For Abraham to beat Pavlik he will have to take chances he never had to take against Miranda. He'd have to attack because otherwise he'll be on the end of Pavlik's jab all night (which means he loses).
     
  2. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    One poster here that I think has an 'in' at Pavlik's training camp has said Kelly's defense is improving. I think he has the time and money and the motivation to work on his boxing. I'm not sure if Jack is his only trainer still, but I'd love to see them bring in others to get some input.
     
  3. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    The first punch that hurt Miranda was a legit punch. Look where Miranda's hands are when he got hit by the 'windmill'. Miranda definetly doesn't seem to know what to do when hurt. Compare that to Kelly in his first fight agaist Taylor.
     
  4. Landshark

    Landshark Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shut the **** up dude, you only base your opninion on the last abraham fight. AA does have a jab, look at his past fights. He is an excellen counter puncher with power. pavlick got rocked by taylor who could not hurt spinks and ouma, yes ****ing OUMA!!!!! ABraham takes those two on both in the same night!
    Just shut up dude seriously! just aniother miranda asswipe and asslicker!
    :happy :happy
     
  5. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik is improving his defense & the size differential between KP & AA will be enormous. It will be like a bully from the playground trying to beat a skilled pro fighter that will tower over him. Next to PBF, AA is the next guy in line I wanna see get his dumb ass beat real bad.

    Wonder if he found his title belt yet?:yep
     
  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Interesting . . . I can smell blood from here. :D
     
  7. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you like AA style instead of Kellys, your name should be MUDSHARK, one of the lowest ****in creatures on the planet. ****in newbie's...

    Where the hell did you just come from?
     
  8. WelshintheUS

    WelshintheUS Active Member Full Member

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    Seriously impressed with Abraham and I favour him to hand Pavlik his first loss.
    I can see Kelly jabbing away at Abrahams guard, try to go down stairs and get sparked clean by a counter hook.
     
  9. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Well, I was a little distressed to see the article kind of seemed to be pushing the fight back. I understand AA wanting to fight in Germany to defend his title though. Damned it would be a great card if these two were both on it though. I'm not sure how much money it takes for Pavlik and Abraham to get this fight done, but I don't think the boxers are the ones worried about the money for this fight.
     
  10. Landshark

    Landshark Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude I don't have to be someone like yourself with 8,478 posts to show my knowledge in boxing. I do have a job, but it is poeple that state the stupidest **** like yourself that refrain me from posting here. Douchebag if you watch aa's previous fights he does have a VERY underated heavy jab, unlike you Pavlick asskissers you would not acknowledge that. AA also has a deceptive straight right that I assure you pavlick won't see and put him on ***** street just like he was with average powered taylor.
    You are the one stating it is a mismatch and aa is not in Pavlicks league! I actually like pavlick but it is ass molesters like yourself that I want to see him KTFO!
    YOU ****ing ****
     
  11. egreezy

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    the Kessler that got rocked in the first round against Sartison? I dont see whats great about him. He doesnt look as great as I heard him to be.
     
  12. Uppercut83

    Uppercut83 The Quitschkos are bums Full Member

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    You should watch at least 6-7 fights before judging a fighter, basing your whole opinion on 1 or 2 fights is stupid.
     
  13. egreezy

    egreezy Member Full Member

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    some fighters fight twice a year. so i should wait 3 years before i speak on kessler? hahaha i've seen him fight calzaghe and sartison. and if he was as good as everyone says he is it should not have taken him 12 rounds to ko sartison who isnt even a top10 supermiddleweight.
     
  14. billyconn

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    If Kelly could keep Abraham at arm's length and uses his reach he could put on a clinic, but if Abraham can force some inside fighting it could get interesting albeit dangerous for Pavlik.....
     
  15. skipdog

    skipdog Active Member Full Member

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    Straight shots land way ahead of those looping borderline haymakers I have seen from Abraham, his jab is good as well, but does he want to try and jab with Pav? Only chance is to land a bomb, when he tries the stiff rights will end him.. KP throws the cleanest straights around and in bunches. It would be great to see Abraham fight Taylor if weights were still the same. I do not think it would be an easy fight for Abraham by any means. The size difference is large and Pav uses it fully, I see AA getting 1-2d to the ground at some point. Sure he could catch him with a big shot. Miranda landed some big shots on KP and he handled it just fine.. Abraham is somehow the greatest because he KOd Miranda? Who else? Just do not see him beating KP, I see him gettimg stopped...