pavlik owns williams and martinez,,,,,,,,,,,,

I think Kelly wins but he'll be made to look foolish by way of Paul williams many demensions. At the end of the day Kelly is just bigger, stronger and has heavier hands which will be the deciding factor.

 

I keep telling folks, effective use of power is its own skill.

 

Kelly has a way about staying cool, calm and composed. I think he'll loose most rounds but he'll keep his head and wal Paul down and end up putting him to sleep or the ref will stop it. But I agree with you.:good

 

Are we for sure this fights happening? the post here say Pavlik vs Williams, B-hop for Adamek ....Juanma challenging Caballero(but I thought Arum was trying to set up a Juanma vs Gamboa fight) are all happening I don't know I cant trust it till It's for sure any proof these fights are a go?

 

kelly's best attribute is consistency

 

True! This is a tough one to call.....but if this goes 12, it's Paul all day. I don't think Kelly has the style to out point or win a decision against Paul. I just feel Paul's style or work rate might be his undoing. Paul's "D" is very under rated even during his offensive spurts, but that still doesn't mean he isn't open during his offensive onslaughts. I think Kelly will be willing to punch with Paul being he's the bigger man and more solid at MW. Paul will hit Kelly with 4 or 5 punches but Kelly's one or two in return will be more damaging.

 

I said before I'll say it again ..Pavlik by brutal KO .We have yet to see the chin of Williams be tested ..This will not only test it but shatter it ..


Now if he manges to survive the onslought its feasable that he pulls out a pts decision ..But I don't see him just outboxing Kelly in the way Hopkins did ..Not the same boxing IQ ..


I like Pavlik by KO to the body 7th rd ..

 

What do you base this judgement on? - I mean you said it yourself, we have yet to see his chin tested, so what happens if he has a very good chin?

 

The body work will play a vital roll. This is an area where KP does not get nearly the credit he deserves. He did considerable head hunting in a couple high profile fights, but that is NOT the norm.

 

Please email this to the PWilly camp! Don't wait! Do it NOW!


Seriously though, there are 3 huge flaws in your logic. 1) Paul's over all reach is deceptive. His actual arm length adavantage is only 1", same as Miranda. 2) Pavlik throws a lethal left hook; and he doubles and triples it up and down, and mixes it with jabs effectively. 3) Pavlik's lead right is one of his best weapons. Come to think of it, just how many Pavlik fights have you actually seen?

 

Not sure how you got to the 1" advantage...but even if that is correct (its not)...you cant compare his reach to Miranda's anyway (regardless of the fact that Williams from fist to fist has about 5" on Edison...not sure where you got this...but Ill humor it). Williams doubles, triples, quadruples his very good jab and uses his length very well. Miranda throws no jabs and wings wide punches all day long...meaning he essentially uses his reach 0% of the time.

Two entirely different fighters...with two entirely different styles...and two entirely different uses of length. Not to mention that their reach is two entirely different measurements (Williams 82", Miranda 77")...but whatever.

 

Miranda at 160 threw back with evil intentions and serious firepower. Williams throws welterweight arm punches.

The arm length came from HBO.

 

can i see pavlik throwing a triple hook?

 

Do you two eyes?

 

im saying like what fight did it happen in?