Pavlik Proved My Point About J.c.c Jr

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  1. KhanB

    KhanB Active Member Full Member

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    JCC jr has had everything given to him bcuz of his name so far. Pavlik earned what he got thru hard work and beating Miranda and Taylor. Junior aint gonna clear out any division like Pavlik has. Doesnt Jr fight in the WW division? He'll have to fight somebody legit someday.
     
  2. Relentless

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    he fights in jr middleweight,

    he is only 20 years old, and no boxer ever gets anything given to them, every boxer that ever made it big had to work for it.
     
  3. KhanB

    KhanB Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah right, tell that to Ali's daughter. Chavez Jr wouldnt of got the chances he did if it wasnt for his father. I'll bet most of his fans were fans of his father. He got a built in fan base.
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Agreed. I'll also add that you can even get away with awful, bizarre technique if you can practice it enough (Hamed).
     
  5. Relentless

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    are you saying its easy to fight?
     
  6. KhanB

    KhanB Active Member Full Member

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    Are you even reading today? Just bcuz i say Chavez Jr and Laila Ali are known bcuz of their name and get television dates they wouldnt of got otherwise doesnt mean that fighting is easy. I dont know where you getting that from what ive typed. Just the fact the Chavez jr is getting brought up proves that he gets coverage for his name. When Chavez jr fights a Miranda like opponent in Jr WW division and kicks his ass i'll retract my statement.
     
  7. PJD3

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    How old was Tyson when won the HW title? 21..
    Barrera was pro at 16.
    Savlador Sanchez was 21 when he won a belt.
    Oscar was 21 when won a belt.
    " Good" fighters are fighting 12 round fights around 20 fights in and should have been tested or put up against good comp.
    30 fights in you be facing championship caliber or at least the upper elite of your division.
    Orlando Chico Canizales and Alex Alrgulle was 19 when they turned pro.
    PAVLIK AND jr are not the same type of fighter.
    PAVLIK HAS PROVEN WHAT HIS IS... A CHAMPION...jr has proven what he isn't.:fart
    If he does I would be shock if isn't exposed by then.:bokc
    But I don't know if can wait for him to fight somebody by his 100th fight. :tired
     
  8. PJD3

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    True...:good but he fights 37 year old tomatoe can jr.lightweights:!:
    but jr is special......special treatment.:p
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    His foot work was not that great, and his defence was in fact leaky, not terrible, but Mancinni out boxed him for 12 rounds before AA put the hurt on him, and Andy Gannigan knocked him right on his arse. Arguello's greatness was in his effective offense, his calm demeanor under fire, and especially those brutal combinations, and his freakish lazer guided jab that set everthing else up. Actually I think he is a great example because in some areas he was incredible, and in some areas he had, shall we say, issues. By the way; AA is one of my all time favorites.

    Boo
     
  10. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you know that Chavez Jr. has ZERO amateur experience, all he has is his 34 pro fights to get by. All we can do is see him grow into a better fighter, not expect him to fight for a title by his next fight.

    All the fighters you mentioned had the amateur experience to fall back on. Specialy DLH who had over 200 amateur fights.