Pavlik v. Dawson at 168, if both had 6 months to prepare; who wins?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Taylor did damage because he got Pavlik to brawl with him and one of those massive swings hit. Then, he pounced and tried to stop him but couldn't. Dawson couldn't either. Pavlik is more experienced now anyway. If Pavlik got in a brawl with Dawson, Dawson would get knocked out for sure.
     
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  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No one went after Dawson the way Taylor went after Pavlik. Taylor was lucky. Dawson's chin is definitely more shaky than Pavlik's. Dawson wouldn't have survived Taylor, that's for sure...
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Exactly he froze up with Dawson's southpaw stance, speed and his movement he wasn't use to it and couldn't handle it and was made uncomfortable all night by it. The same will happen to Kelly since he's never seen it either.
     
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  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah, he says he's better at 175 than at 160! Sure thing! So is Pavlik! That doesn't mean they wouldn't both be better at 168 than at either 175 or 160 now, does it!;)
     
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  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Except that Pavlik will take Dawson out after he buzzez him. He won't let him off the hook, the way Adamek did...
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Dawson is much more accurate than Taylor not to mention a better combo puncher as well. He would have fared much better in that situation than Taylor did.
    You say Dawson would get Koed as if Kelly has an iron chin, he could go down just as easily as Dawson could don't fool yourself.
     
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  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    If Taylor had been in with Dawson and had hurt him as badly as he hurt Pavlik, he'd have finished him. I'm certain of that.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Dawson wouldn't have been in that position because he's not stupid enough to stick his chin out there like that and taunt Taylor like Kelly did.
     
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  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol:

    Dawson keeps his guard down, stops moving and provides a clear shot to the chin for seconds on end...

    *CRACK* comes Pavlik's right hand....:yep
     
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    We don't know if Kelly's power will carry up to 168. He might turn into a plodding slugger at that weight.:D
     
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  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No, he won't. He'll have more power with slightly more muscle mass. He is a very big MW...going up to SMW is no problem - it's an advantage!
     
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  12. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Um, no.

    He went from 160 through to 175, and stopped to pick up a trinket belt at 168.

    He describes his movement up these weightclasses, 168 included, as "natural developement", and his body "filling out".

    Nice try though. :good
     
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  13. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    It's inevitable that fighters lose power as they go up in weight.
     
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I think everyone knows that but Decebel is like a brick wall when discussing Kelly.:lol: :good
     
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  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Why did he not stay at 168?

    That's right...the division was too crowded and he didn't fancy his chances against Calzagh or Kessler. On the other hand...the likes of Tarver - whom he and everyone assumed was shot - looked a much better risk/reward...

    Nice try though...:good
     
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