Pavlik v. Dawson at 168, if both had 6 months to prepare; who wins?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I can't believe the lack of accurate analysis in this thread. Dawson is much bigger than Kelly he's been fighting at 175 for christ sake he could deal with Kelly's power. What would be the real test is could Kelly deal with Dawson's power. Kelly was hurt badly against Taylor and no way in hell does he come close to Chad's power. People are so quick to look at things like power but overlook things like southapw stance, footwork, speed, jab and accuracy. Kelly's footwork is poor and against someone like Dawson he would have to reset every time in order to get off, not to mention he can't fight backing up which he will be doing alot of against Chad. I see Dawson working from his southpaw stance using an educated workrate, his superior jab and footwork to contol this fight from a distance also when he needs to mix it up I see him getting the best of kelly in the exchanges with his superior combo punching. This fight isn't even close and Kelly gets a boxing lesson from a much more complete fighter and losses by wide UD. This would be the first time he'd be in the ring with someone who is bigger and stronger than he is. and it would give him fits.
     
  3. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dawson is not much bigger than Pavlik. Dawson was a MW a few years ago just like Pavlik. Pavlik has the build to fill into a LHW easily in a few years. His natural weight right now is probably SMW to begin with. Only because Pavlik stays in great shape can he make MW. So we are talking about two similiar sized guys. And Dawson can easily make 168 right now.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Dawson is small. If Pavlik had 6 months to prepare, he'd outweigh Dawson by at least 4-5 pounds on the night. My bet is that it would be more like 10 lbs. He'd be stronger and have more stamina by quite a lot.

    Dawson's power?:rofl

    Pavlik woud fight backing up against Dawson?:nut

    Dawson would be the counterpuncher in this fight, buddy.:deal

    This fight isn't even close; you're right there!:yep

    Pavlik KO 8.
     
  5. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I see Pimp C starting what he thought would be yet another Pavlik bashing thread, and getting his ass handed to him:yep
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Dawson is the bigger man. He's taller and has longer arms. Sure Dawson can make 168 but he's the bigger man period.
     
  7. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I gotta go along with you on this:hi:
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I'm not starting a Pavlik bashing thread and I actually like Kelly and picked him to beat Taylor in the rematch. I feel that he'd lose to Dawson and that's not a knock on him in any way. BTW I never get my ass handed to me in any discussion.:deal
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    This is the perfect thread to flush out the Dawson nuthuggers. Watch them all jumping into the net!;)
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Some people will try and be too clever by half and think themselves out of a very easy pick, in this one. Don't! Don't overcomplicate things. No need. This is an easy one.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    What you fail to realize is Kelly has never faced anyone that has the movement of Dawson. Not only does Dawson have good speed and movement but he also has a great workrate and goes to the body well and he will come forward. He would back Kelly up with his punches. Kelly is no Johnson in the chin department so please stop.:D
     
  12. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, you said Dawson was much bigger. Now you're just changing it to bigger? They are about the same size. Size won't play a role, that's what i'm saying.
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He wouldn't back Kelly up with his punches. Kelly would walk through them and within 2-3 rounds, Dawson would be on th backfoot. Dawson can win the early rounds...but so what? Doesn't win you the fight! After 2-3 rounds, his footwork wouldn't be so good, his movement wouldn't either, his workrate would decrease and he'll start getting owned. Kelly's chin is quite a lot better than the chin that Dawson would crack. Kelly's workrate and pressure would cut Dawson up badly. I can see a corner stoppage before the 6th round in this one...:yep
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    They're not the same size. Pavlik would be bigger than Dawson if he had 6 months to build up. No doubt at all. Dawson, fighting at 175, is not bigger than a small SMW. Pavlik's size advantage would be significant in this fight. He'd beat Dawson at 160, 168 and 175, especially at 175!:yep
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You're right, I hear you I shouldn't have said much bigger. With that said Dawson is the bigger man.:good