Pavlik v. Dawson at 168, if both had 6 months to prepare; who wins?

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  1. Ramshall1

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    Pav smacks that runner around until the ref saves him.
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    In all honesty I have to admit that Kelly Pavlik is still untested in many ways. At his point I think there are two types of fighters that might beat him.

    1) A really bad ass brawler who's strong enough and hits hard enough to win a war of attrition. Kelly has not faced anyone who can make him stay on his back foot, and box.

    2) A really slick, really fast, counter puncher with enough power to make Pavlik tenative thereby cutting his work rate way down.

    I don't think dawson fits either description.

    Boo
     
  3. Dawson would KTFO Pavlik......

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  4. pipe wrenched

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    :rofl :rofl

    It's funny 'cause it's true....:D
     
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  6. BITCH ASS

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    Slap yourself.
     
  7. BITCH ASS

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    People on this board don't realize that Pavlik is a hungry, hard working fighter and what he lacks in athleticism, he makes up for with heart and determination.

    It also doesn't hurt that he has great stamina, heavy, hard hitting hands, and unless you're an excellent boxer and you can avoid his devestating bodyshots which lead to the systematic breakdown with right hands or as people on this board like to put it, "accumulation shots."

    Although, I'm skeptical of the accumulation, as so many put it because considering his spectacular KO's of Taylor, Zertuche, and Miranda, I'm under the impression that Kelly does infact possess 1 punch KO power, but is relatively slow, so until his opponent tires, he's unable to land it.

    If it's just accumulation that stops his opponents, why don't his bouts end in TKO's? You can't tell me when he put Zertuche to sleep, or was killin Miranda against the ropes, or put Taylor in the zone that those were merely accumulation shots.

    I'll be real though. He does hurt you to the body and once he sees his opponent start to fade, it's all over.

    Dawson?

    What has he proved. He proved he doesn't have entirely too much courage in denying Johnson a rematch. ****, Johnson earned one. And just the fact that he couldn't dominate an opponent that was 14 years his senior and was NO defensive mastermind says a lot about Dawson as well. Dawson isn't on Pavlik's level yet as far as experience and big fights are concerned, I know that much. As far as his ability, well you get what you see, and you would think that his ability would be able to carry the day......

    BUT......

    Does Dawson have the heart to deal with Kelly's pressure? If Dawson thought Johnson was rough, wait until he gets a 25 year old on his ass giving him relentless pressure.

    So people that say Pavlik would win aren't so far off, and very well could be right.

    Right now though, this fight isn't in the best interest of either fighter. Pavlik should stay at middle a little longer, and Dawson should regain his respect with a rematch against Johnson.
     
  8. Pimp C

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  9. Samurai

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    Do people forget that at 168 pounds Dawson will have even better punching power? At 175, I think his power is very underrated, I saw him stun iron-chinned Adamek a few times, making him reluctant to engage. He also rocked him in the 11th round, right after he'd gotten knocked down.
     
  10. BITCH ASS

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    How do you know that?

    To me Taylor looked a lot stronger at 166 when he fought Pavlik, so what makes you think for sure that Dawson will get stronger as he moves down in weight?

    He might be weight drained.
     
  11. Pimp C

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    People here are so quick to underrate Dawson. He beat two tough guys in Adamek and Johnson not an easy task. The guy has good power at 175 and at 168 it will be a lot better. He's young has very good skills and will only get better. He proved his heart in his last fight against Johnson when he could have layed down and quit.
     
  12. BITCH ASS

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    The mother ****er is 57 years old.
     
  13. Samurai

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    A topic was posted a little bit before the Dawson-Johnson fight where Dawson said in an interview that he's not really a light heavyweight. Saying he enters camp at 170 pounds and has to train to get UP in weight.
     
  14. Samurai

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    :thumbsup
     
  15. Pimp C

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    Johnson gives anyone at 175 hell and you know it. He's tough as hell and relentless.