pavlik v kessler would be a better fight to watch!!

if anyone argues that Pavlik lose on point he know nnothing about boxing?
yeah get the **** out of here dumbass

 

What a dumb statement.

 

Delete. My bad misread the post.

 

I agree with this post in full. Kelly is just too orthodox a fighter to beat Calzaghe, but Kessler is way to close to call. Pavlik and Kessler are very similar fighters. Jab, jab and right hand. Both punch very straight and crisp. Wouldnt bet a dollar either way.

 

I've said it all along. Kessler v Pavlik could be one hell of a fight and I hope to hell it happens.

 

Being orthodox is not a disadvantage when you excell in the fundamentals. Remember when Forrest beat the Mosely back when Mosely seemed unbeatable. He said you beat speed with a stiff jab.

I think the type of style to beat Joe will be a fighter with solid fundamentals who is able to offset Joe's awkward style with a hard jab. And that COULD be KP.

 

Kessler is exactly that atsch

Infact, Kessler's fundementals are better than Pavlik's

No no, the type of fighter to beat Calzaghe is an elite defensive counterpuncher. There isn't one around, he just beat the guy with the worst style for him.

 

This fight would be amazing.

 

Kessler hasn't faced the likes of KP's competition. You can say his fundamentals are better than Pavlik's, but those are just words with nothing to back them up.

Also, I disagree that it's the defensive counterpuncher who has the best shot against Joe. Joe's activity will beat that style on points every time. It's gonna take someone who can INTELLIGENTLY pick his spots and blast Joe with hard jabs, while avoiding getting into a spastic inside fight like the too excitable Kessler did again and again.

 

He hasn't faced Pavlik's competition? :rofl

So Calzaghe isn't better than Taylor? Miranda is supposed to be better than Mundine? ****ing Zuniga better than Andrade?

Joe's activity won't beat a defensive counterpuncher everytime. The whole point of this style is you land clean effective shots to slow the work-rate. Hopkins did it effectively for about 4 rounds, until he gassed, thats not a fault of his style. A fundamentally sound fighter that is very basic such as Kessler/Pavlik will lose every single time, because they are too orthodox and predictable, and Calzaghe adapts to the style easily. The evidence is right infront of your face. Go watch Hopkins/Calzaghe, Kessler/Calzaghe again.

 

You're right, Kessler did face great competition in Cal. And he got beat.

Wait, is Hopkins is a defensive counterpuncher or a fundametally sound fighter? You seem to change your mind in this post to suit your argument.

I'll answer it for you. Hop is a counterpuncher who waited for Joe too often. The result was a few good rounds and better looking punches, but in the end his waiting cost him because he had less activity than Joe.

Kessler does not have the great fundamentals you claim or else he would not have allowed himself to get hit as much as he did. Kessler's defensive vulnerabilities are that he gets overexcited and exposes himself and he gets off balance often.

KP is more methodical, better paced, better balanced and more mature in the ring than Kessler. And he has a higher activity rate and better knockout plan than Hopkins.

Thems the facts.

 

Let me guess: you have only seen Kessler fight once (against Calzaghe)?

Your attempt at analyzing is way off!!!

 

Well you certainly put me in my place! That was a cyclone of brilliance you just unleashed there!

I react to what I see in the ring. In Kessler/Calzaghe I saw a brilliant Cal expose less than brilliant fundamentals in Kessler. Simple as that.

But if you have a superior argument to make with jawdropping analysis, why don't you make it?

 

Perfect amature style match. Two guys using hand speed to score points. Taylor is faster and wins the points battle. Both do the little 'shoe shine' body flurries the seem to impress crowds and judges but do no damage. I honestly believe Taylor has the edge in this match, but we will never see it.