Pavlik V Miranda - Pavlik's defensive game

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  1. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    I did watch this fight but due to my terrible memory all I recall is a war of attrition until Miranda folded.

    What I'd like to know is how easily Miranda was landing on Pavlik. Because with all the debate going on about Calzaghe V Pavlik I'd like to know how elusive Pavlik was against a fighter who is not the most refined.
     
  2. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Are you in love with Pavlik?
     
  3. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Pav's plan was not to be elusive, but to drive staight into the face of Miranda. And it worked, the first and only time Miranda had been KO'd and is the only REAL defeat on his record.

    People may tell you of 4-5 big right hands Miranda landed, but that's it...in a 7 round fight.

    P.S.- YouTube has the full fight for your viewing pleasure.
     
  4. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    i dont think that fight was ever close,pavlik just weighed him in basically.
     
  5. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Nobody hardly (except for us of course:D ) gave Pav a snowballs chance in hell.
     
  6. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Why would you think that?
     
  7. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    you're always talking / making threads about him.
     
  8. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Miranda landed quite a few shots, particularly in the second and the sixth.
     
  9. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Just sizing him up, I'm a Calzaghe fan. Only seen Pavlik in his last three fights.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Miranda's punching technique is ****. Which means that to land a devastating shot he absolutely needs to lean into the punch with his weight behind it. Pavlik backed him up. Miranda sucks at fighting off the backfoot

    The result is what we saw.
     
  11. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    Thinking of this fight brings me a great joy, I mean this was a fight

    As you can see here Pavlik shows proper respect to Miranda's offense by slipping punches , ducking under shots, and delfecting blows while launching his own attack.

    At the same time ; Pavlik is willing to step through Miranda's attacks just to land his own. Miranda wasnt going to convince Pavlik that he was stronger .
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  12. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    Odviously he is getting hit more than he is supposed to but It just doesnt seem to matter when its all said and done.
     
  13. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pavlik bullied the bully, Miranda couldn't fight very well going backwards and Pavlik beat him up then knocked him out. Pavlik's best defense was to keep driving forward and throwing punches because Miranda was having trouble getting his punches off. Pavlik also used some good subtle defensive moves. Miranda landed a decent number of shots against Pavlik but was totally out of his comfort zone, this was a case of a great offense equaling a great defense
     
  14. TreBen

    TreBen MeldrickHOF'09 Full Member

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    Miranda landed his fair share of right hand shots, but they definitely lacked the snap and zip that they carried in previous fights. Maybe it wouldn't have made any difference, but Miranda's struggle to make weight seemed quite apparent as early as round 1. I would like to see a rematch at 168...
     
  15. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    lol just giving you a hard time. But about this fight, Miranda seemingly had no trouble landing on Pavlik. I remember I think it was around the 4th or 5th he literally winded up three big right hands like he was throwing a baseball and all of them landed flush to Pavlik's chin.