PAVLIK Vs BUTE

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ikeabuchia, Jun 15, 2008.


  1. lefthook

    lefthook Active Member Full Member

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    You cant see how he could beat Pavlik?Pavlik wouldnt be the bigger man against Bute.So I dont think he would be as effective at super midleweight if they fought at this weight.Bute is faster,better footwork and I believe he have the tools and skills to outbox Pavlik.
     
  2. TommyV

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    I told you I didn't even watch 2-3-4. I can't bothered because I've seen the fight twice and I know Bute won comfortably.

    So are you telling me Bute doesn't have a chance of beating Pavlik? Because I'd have this fight 60/40 in his favour.
     
  3. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Dude

    It is unrealistic to think Pavlik can lose.
     
  4. TommyV

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    :D
     
  5. Andreikov

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    He can lose against Calzaghe or Kessler, but not Bute.
     
  6. Buddy La

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  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    hmmm...I don't think that is as obvious as you make it out to be, Andreikov, mate...
     
  8. Buddy La

    Buddy La Active Member Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins??
     
  9. Andreikov

    Andreikov Member Full Member

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    Well. You'll see after de Bute/Andrade fight.

    Andreikov was so right :rasta
     
  10. Andreikov

    Andreikov Member Full Member

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    Did i tell you that i saw Bute 10 times live at the bell center ? Bute is my favorite fighter with Alcine. But im realistic, very bad match-up against Pavlik.

    Maybe im wrong, who knows ?
     
  11. TommyV

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    Wasn't really exposed. B-Hop put him down when he was off-balance fair enough, but Joe won the fight clearly enough, B-Hop makes anyone look bad just like Ruiz does at heavy (bar Tua :D )
     
  12. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Do you care to explain why this is a bad match-up for Bute?
     
  13. Andreikov

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    Is weak jab. Bute's got one of the best footwork on the market. But, is incapacity to move back is opponent will be fatal against a guy like Pavlik. You'll see what i mean against Andrade.
     
  14. TommyV

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    Pavlik isn't a guy who brings constant no end pressure unlike Andrade. But Andrade is too limited.
     
  15. Azriel

    Azriel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dude, or you know nothing of boxing or.... well, you just don'T know ****.

    Anyways, lets analyze this;

    • Pavlik is a strong puncher. BUT, at 160. Bute is a big 168Lbs and punches very hard too. Look at the stats (Pavlik 30Kos on 34, 88%) (Bute 18 KOs on 22, 81%)
    • Bute is faster. Look at videos, you'll see what I mean
    • Bute has better footwork
    • Bute is versatile, he adjusts in the ring to his opponent, a little like Calzaghe. The difference is experience AND style. Bute is more by the book.
    • Pavlik is come straight forward, Bute a good counter puncher and can fight on the back foot (We will see more against Andrade)
    • Defense wise, I think they are just alike. They are a little hittable but again, Bute is faster. As we've seen against Berio, he can also dodge the big shots.
    Now, I think it's a pretty fair matchup. It won't make any predictions but I like Bute UD or SD. And until i've seen Bute in trouble from ANY puncher, I cannot predict a Pavlik knockout.

    Oh, and here are Pavlik's first 22 opponents;
    Carlton Holland
    Pedro Ortega
    Roberto Baro
    Anthony Ivory
    Rico Cason
    Cesar Avila
    Eduardo Gutierrez
    Edson Madrid
    Abel Hernandez
    Eric Olds
    Robert Dasoyan
    Rob Bleakley
    Mario Lopez
    Grady Brewer
    Tommy Walker
    Mathias Bedburdick
    Cedric Johnson
    Lafayette Randolph
    Anthony Collier
    Frankie Sanchez
    Nelson Hernandez
    Eric Benito Tzand

    First class huh?


    P.S Andrade will get his ass wooped my friend. And THAT I am sure of.:rasta