Pavlik vs. Cazlaghe?

Sure in hindsight, who wouldnt? Fact is at the time of the fight Miranda was highly favored and many felt the most dangerous MW around. How can you deny that? Do you have a short memory?

 

I'd also put a past his prime (but only 30/31) year old Eubank above Miranda

 

Another fanboy bringing up Lacyatsch Ever watch Lacys fights pre-Joe? He looked like **** then too:deal And sheika highly favored? Please pass that **** you're smoking:rasta

 

atsch :nut

 

You are clearly biased here. You brought up Miranda saying in hindsight he was no better than Brewer / Mitchell, but used his name as at the time he was highly favoured and unruined.

Are you saying Lacy wasn't highly favoured? All the boxing journo's predicted him to win by KO. He was America's next big thing (in the press).

Am I saying he's an elite fighter? No, far from it. However, if you are saying Miranda was highly favoured and Lacy wasn't this simply isn't true.

Also Im not a fanboy thanks! All Im doing is taking an even view of both fighters, too many people who are fans of Calzaghe or Pavlik belittle the other's achievements. They're both great fighters and I like them both.

 

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Did I say Lacy wasnt favored? NO. But H2H Miranda KILLS Lacy

 

I like Pavlik but to claim Taylor as being 'elite' bothers me. JC would beat him (JT) at any point in his career.

 

That "would beat em" **** means nothing at all coming from you. I'm sure he "wouldve" beat Glen Johnson too but instead he ducked him twice:deal

 

Hope so.

 

Fight is verbally agreed. Warren may hold things up along with Joe being willing to break his hand if the RJJ fight needs it. Arum's been spouting **** about alternatives like a good greedy ass promoter but Kelly has his heart set on Joe. Joe has a lot of respect for Kelly for that. The only reason the fight won't happen as long as they win revolves around how much Arum sucks out of a major promotion given that he'd already carved out a nice little portion for himself and Warren before Joe saw the light and dumped the slimey cocksucker. Arum and Warren deserve each other which is unfortunate for Kelly, although Arum wll be forced to relent on this occasion as not to **** of his no.1 fighter once Pac is tuned by big bully Oscar

 

If they fight, though...at what weight??

 

I'd like them to fight at 160

 

Only in Joe's dreams will he ever be 160 again.

 

Don't think you'll get to see this...