Pavlik vs Martinez, April 17th

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JETSKI, Jan 30, 2010.


  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I'll just suggest we look at a few punch stats. I'm aware that compu-box type numbers can be misleading, and you certainly cannot use them to judge a fight. However, they can be very telling if you use them as a basis for comparison. Here's my main point.

    Paul Williams rarely lands more than 24% in a given round. His offensive is so sloppy that Margarito stood flat footed right in front of him, and slipped his jab repeatedly. Against Martinez PW racked up a 33% connect rate. That tells me that Martinez is not hard to hit, not at all. If ya ain't hard to hit, and you're fighting Kelly Pavlik . . . . . well . . . . do the math.
     
  2. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Very interesting match-up. Odd that the loser is getting a shot at pavlik.
    The only concern i have with sergio is that he seemed to fade a little late
    against a guy who doesn't hit like kelly, and he traded in close too much.
    Bad idea for martinez. He needs to fight kelly for strictly a points win and he will be the new middle weight champion of the world. Kelly is almost as busy as pwill but not as mobile, but doesn't lay his head on the side like paul does either which will make him harder to hit clean. KP rolls and picks shots off better than obviously most of the limited knowledged fans on here can see, so martinez won't have a willimng target. I can def see SM
    making kelly hunt for him early to no avail, but SM will try to engage sooner or later but will find kelly very hard to hurt. KP is a big, strong middleweight with good foundation and he hits very hard and is busy. Also, like jetski said, pav's best punch is his right and that's krypto for a leftie. I wouldn't be surprised by a serg pts win, but he has to fight a smart and disciplined fight and keep pav off balance or he will be hurt and stopped.
     
  3. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    Are you on crack!:nut

    Not even the most bias KP fan believes that KP will take SM out with ease!

    BTW! you can't forget something that has never been or never was!
     
  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Sane post.
     
  5. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    I told you about that stat ****! I'm gonna put you in your place!

    Pavlik rarely has over 30% punch stats!

    Rubio, Bhop, JT 2x, Mckart and more have out punched KP!

    Most of the guys have well over 30% connect rates vs KP!:hi:
     
  6. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    boo is a stupid uneducated redneck. dont waste ur time with him.
     
  7. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  8. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pavlik wil be ready. it will be a clsoe fight for 6-7 rounds and then I see Pavliks power being the decisive factor. Pavlik in a victory which co uld be a KO if he lands clean late
     
  9. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good Excellent post and a very fair analysis!!

    I hope this fight gets made!!!

    If it does, I am favouring Pavlik but this fight should tell us whether or not the guy who beat Taylor and who prevailed in a war with Miranda is ever going to be "Back"!

    It is time to exorcise the demons of the B-Hop fight Kelly (If you can) and I hope you can.
     
  10. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. I think he has it in him and we will see vs Martinez if that is really true
     
  11. olyalex

    olyalex Manos de piedra Full Member

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    I hope that Martinez will win, he is so great for the sport, and sadly he was robbed against Cintron,didn't get the decision against PW,altough he derved it as much as PW,I just hope he will get what he deserves.
     
  12. Spunik

    Spunik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If this goes down, I think Pavlik will do better than Cintron did against Martinez.
     
  13. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many posts will we get in this thread before we see the fight is still not made....Its PW V Pav all over again :yep
     
  14. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bad match up for Kelly Jet. I honestly don't know how he will handle Martinez. PWill I think he would beat, Martinez showed a sturdy enough chin too so I don't like this fight for Pav.
     
  15. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Martinez. All night long.