Pavlik vs the top middleweights

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vincent Gottschalk, Jun 3, 2008.


  1. Vincent Gottschalk

    Vincent Gottschalk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is how I see it going

    # 1 Pavlik KO's Arthur Abraham in 11
    # 2 Pavik out points Winky Wright over 12
    # 3 Pavlik KO's John Duddy in 6
    # 4 Pavlik KO's Giovanni Lorenzo in 7
    # 5 Pavlik KO's Randy Griffin 9
    # 6 Pavlik David Lopez in 8
    # 7 Pavlik KO's Marco Antonio Rubio 4
    # 8 Pavlik KO's Gary Lockett in 5
    # 9 Pavlik KO's Sebastian Sylvester in 3
    # 10 Pavlik KO's Felix Sturm in 10

    How do guys see these fights going
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    Abraham T/KO Pavlik
    Pavlik T/KO Wright
    " " Rest

    A more interesting discussion is Pavlik vs the top supermiddles
     
  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    # 1 Kelly Pavlik UD Arthur Abraham
    # 2 Winky Wright UD Kelly Pavlik
    # 3 Kelly Pavlik TKO's John Duddy
    # 4 Kelly Pavlik KO's Giovanni Lorenzo
    # 5 Kelly Pavlik KO's Randy Griffin
    # 6 Kelly Pavlik KO's David Lopez
    # 7 Kelly Pavlik UD Marco Antonio Rubio
    # 8 Kelly Pavlik TKO's Gary Lockett
    # 9 Kelly Pavlik KO's Sebastian Sylvester
    # 10 Kelly Pavlik KO's Felix Sturm

    I kinda agree with you for the most part bro...
    except I think Kelly should stay away from "Winky".
    But Overall I really can't see any of them hanging in there with how impressive Pavlik has looked latley...
    but anything can happen. (We can all be wrong this weekend)
     
  4. kel

    kel Boxing Addict banned

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    Anthony Mundine is now in that mix
     
  5. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    Abraham KO11 Pavlik
    Pavlik UD Wright
    Pavlik UD Duddy
    Pavlik KO6 Rubio
    Pavlik KO8 Lockett
    Pavlik KO4 Sylvester
    Pavlik TKO10 Sturm
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    :yikes

    If anything, a guy like Sturm is far more likely to go the distance.
     
  7. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    I'm actually starting to slightly favor Abraham
     
  8. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Pavlik/Abraham is the toss-up imo. With Abrahams power he has the possibility of putting Pavlik to the canvas. I would go 60% to Pavlik and 40% to Abraham in that fight. If it goes the distance Pavlik takes it on points as far as I see it.
    As for Pavlik/Wright I have to give it to Pavlik right now, simply because we don't know what kind of shape Winky is in these days with his inactivity. A 100% motivated Winky has the chance of making it a very close fight when it goes to the cards.
    Otherwise I see the other 8 challengers getting KO'd, with Sturm possibly making it the distance
     
  9. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    PS - Pavlik ends Duddys career. If your a fan of Duddy you should pray that he never gets in the ring with Pavlik
     
  10. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It depends on whether Abraham is willing to abandon his slow openings. If he takes 3-4 rounds off or waits til the final 20 seconds to try and do anything, Pavlik will win the fight easily. If he brings the fight to Pavlik, he'll have a substantially better chance. I'd still favor Kelly easily.

    And yes, Pavlik ends Duddy's career.
     
  11. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    I thought about a Pavlik/Sturm fight.. He could take Pavlik all 12 rounds, but I really don't see him getting KO'd all the clear either.. That's why I put a TKO in the late rounds like a corner stoppage or the ref stopping the fight when Sturm can't fight back against an unloading Pavlik when he's tired and caught on the ropes... Something like that..
     
  12. Marcus

    Marcus Boxing Junkie banned

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    If he is, and he is surely isnt.

    Pavlik KO 1
     
  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Pavlik KO7 Abraham in fight that is not even close. Styles make fights and Pavlik is Arthur's worst nightmare. I'm not hating on Abraham. It's just that any logical analysis leads to Arthur taking a beating on the way to a highlight reel KO.

    I think Arthur's punching power is somewhat over-rated. He has made short work of many "C" and "D" level fighters, but Eastman, Jantuah, and Miranda took him the full 12.

    Pavlik, on the other hand, has the better resume', and he has only been past 9 rounds 1 time. Pavlik's last 6 opponents all got KTFO. Yes JT made the distance in the second fight, but we all saw what happened in the first. Out of those 6 opponents 5 had never been stopped before they got pavlikated!

    Pavlik is a better puncher than Abraham. He's a better boxer. He has better stamina. He is WAY bigger than Abraham. Arthur throws 30 punches a round. Pavlik shoots for 100 punches per round and sometimes makes that mark. Arthur spends loads of time laying on the ropes, or in the corner. MAN that is right where Pavlik wants him! Styles make fights. Abraham would have to change pretty much everything he does in the ring to beat Pavlik. Kelly forces opponnents to fight every second of every round. If you try to lay on the ropes or hide in the corner, you're dead meat.
     
  14. ConcretePete

    ConcretePete Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not goin to lie, it dosent fill me with joy the thought of john getting in there with pavlik, but lets not be too haarsh on john, he's got a great chin and with pat burns on board he's got a good oppportunity of greatlyimpoirving his non existant defence. I see Duddy goin the distance with Pavlik nonetheless, but hopefully his title fight will be with Lockett and not Pavlik! Come on Lockett!!!!
     
  15. TFFP

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    According to you boo, Calzaghe is also made for Pavlik

    Is there anybody that isn't 'made for him'?

    He's gonna get his ass whooped at SMW.